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On Fri 2017-06-30 13:21:06, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote: > From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > > Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an > initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the > delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. > > Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> > --- > Changes since v1: > - As suggested by Daniel Thompson > - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same > > v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > index 764db86..49b037e 100644 > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: > "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) > - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables > and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) > + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and > + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling > + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. "Hardware needs a delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM and enabling the backlight using GPIO. The 1st cell specifies this delay in micro seconds. Hardware also needs a delay between disabing the backlight using GPIO and setting PWM value to 0. The 2nd cell is this delay in micro seconds." Pavel
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> wrote: > From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > > Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an > initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the > delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. > > Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> > --- > Changes since v1: > - As suggested by Daniel Thompson > - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same > > v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > index 764db86..49b037e 100644 > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: > "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) > - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables > and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) > + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and > + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling > + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. > + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. > + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. pre and post imply a time before and after a certain event, but these are for 2 different events. These are more like an enable/on delay and disable/off delay which probably should be separate properties. What happens when we need the opposite sequence or a different sequence? Maybe some panel requires the PWM to be 0 until some time after enabling. I don't understand why you even need a post delay. The PWM can be set to 0 while enabled, right? So if the PWM is set to 0 while enabled and then disable the backlight, then there's no delay. Plus this doesn't make much sense to me electrically either. The PWM duty cycle is going to be completely async to the enable line change. The PWM state could go from 1 to 0 at any point in time relative to the enable line change. These issues are the problem with generic bindings. Adding 1 property is no big deal, but then what happens with the next variation. These timing constraints need to be able to be implied by the panel's compatible. Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fbdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Hi Rob, 2017-07-06 19:07 GMT+02:00 Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>: > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra > <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> wrote: >> From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >> >> Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an >> initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the >> delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >> >> Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> >> --- >> Changes since v1: >> - As suggested by Daniel Thompson >> - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same >> >> v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 >> >> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ >> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> index 764db86..49b037e 100644 >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: >> "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) >> - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables >> and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) >> + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and >> + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling >> + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >> + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. >> + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. > > pre and post imply a time before and after a certain event, but these > are for 2 different events. These are more like an enable/on delay and > disable/off delay which probably should be separate properties. What > happens when we need the opposite sequence or a different sequence? > Maybe some panel requires the PWM to be 0 until some time after > enabling. > Maybe, Only I can say that the panels I checked always first enable the PWM and then set the ENABLE signal, but of course I didn't check all the panels. Would be more acceptable have enable-delay-us and disable-delay-us proprieties? > I don't understand why you even need a post delay. The PWM can be set > to 0 while enabled, right? So if the PWM is set to 0 while enabled and > then disable the backlight, then there's no delay. Plus this doesn't > make much sense to me electrically either. The PWM duty cycle is going > to be completely async to the enable line change. The PWM state could > go from 1 to 0 at any point in time relative to the enable line > change. > To be honest I'm also not sure why is required the post delay, some panels specify a 0 but others specifies a minimum value between you off the panel and disable the PWM. The only reason I added the post delay is because the different datasheets specifies it, I don't have a use case that the post delay is used to fix something. Thanks, Enric > These issues are the problem with generic bindings. Adding 1 property > is no big deal, but then what happens with the next variation. These > timing constraints need to be able to be implied by the panel's > compatible. > > Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fbdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Rob, 2017-07-06 20:23 GMT+02:00 Enric Balletbo Serra <eballetbo@gmail.com>: > Hi Rob, > > 2017-07-06 19:07 GMT+02:00 Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>: >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra >> <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> wrote: >>> From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >>> >>> Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an >>> initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the >>> delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> >>> --- >>> Changes since v1: >>> - As suggested by Daniel Thompson >>> - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same >>> >>> v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 >>> >>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ >>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) >>> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >>> index 764db86..49b037e 100644 >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >>> @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: >>> "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) >>> - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables >>> and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) >>> + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and >>> + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling >>> + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >>> + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. >>> + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. >> >> pre and post imply a time before and after a certain event, but these >> are for 2 different events. These are more like an enable/on delay and >> disable/off delay which probably should be separate properties. What >> happens when we need the opposite sequence or a different sequence? >> Maybe some panel requires the PWM to be 0 until some time after >> enabling. >> A second proposal, what do you think? - post-pwm-on-delay-us: Delay in us after setting an initial (non-zero) PWM and enabling the backlight using GPIO. - pwm-off-delay-us: Delay in us after disabling the backlight using a GPIO and setting PWM value to 0. Thanks, Enric > > Maybe, Only I can say that the panels I checked always first enable > the PWM and then set the ENABLE signal, but of course I didn't check > all the panels. > > Would be more acceptable have enable-delay-us and disable-delay-us proprieties? > >> I don't understand why you even need a post delay. The PWM can be set >> to 0 while enabled, right? So if the PWM is set to 0 while enabled and >> then disable the backlight, then there's no delay. Plus this doesn't >> make much sense to me electrically either. The PWM duty cycle is going >> to be completely async to the enable line change. The PWM state could >> go from 1 to 0 at any point in time relative to the enable line >> change. >> > > To be honest I'm also not sure why is required the post delay, some > panels specify a 0 but others specifies a minimum value between you > off the panel and disable the PWM. The only reason I added the post > delay is because the different datasheets specifies it, I don't have a > use case that the post delay is used to fix something. > > Thanks, > Enric > >> These issues are the problem with generic bindings. Adding 1 property >> is no big deal, but then what happens with the next variation. These >> timing constraints need to be able to be implied by the panel's >> compatible. >> >> Rob -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fbdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Thu 2017-07-13 09:22:15, Enric Balletbo Serra wrote: > Rob, > > 2017-07-06 20:23 GMT+02:00 Enric Balletbo Serra <eballetbo@gmail.com>: > > Hi Rob, > > > > 2017-07-06 19:07 GMT+02:00 Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>: > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra > >> <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> wrote: > >>> From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > >>> > >>> Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an > >>> initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the > >>> delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. > >>> > >>> Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> > >>> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> > >>> --- > >>> Changes since v1: > >>> - As suggested by Daniel Thompson > >>> - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same > >>> > >>> v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 > >>> > >>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ > >>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > >>> > >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > >>> index 764db86..49b037e 100644 > >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt > >>> @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: > >>> "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) > >>> - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables > >>> and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) > >>> + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and > >>> + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling > >>> + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. > >>> + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. > >>> + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. > >> > >> pre and post imply a time before and after a certain event, but these > >> are for 2 different events. These are more like an enable/on delay and > >> disable/off delay which probably should be separate properties. What > >> happens when we need the opposite sequence or a different sequence? > >> Maybe some panel requires the PWM to be 0 until some time after > >> enabling. > >> > > A second proposal, what do you think? > > - post-pwm-on-delay-us: Delay in us after setting an initial (non-zero) PWM > and enabling the backlight using GPIO. This says "PWM on", "enable GPIO", "delay". Which is not what you want.
2017-07-13 9:39 GMT+02:00 Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>: > On Thu 2017-07-13 09:22:15, Enric Balletbo Serra wrote: >> Rob, >> >> 2017-07-06 20:23 GMT+02:00 Enric Balletbo Serra <eballetbo@gmail.com>: >> > Hi Rob, >> > >> > 2017-07-06 19:07 GMT+02:00 Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>: >> >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra >> >> <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> wrote: >> >>> From: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >> >>> >> >>> Add a pwm-delay-us property to specify the delay between setting an >> >>> initial (non-zero) PWM value and enabling the backlight, and also the >> >>> delay between disabling the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >> >>> >> >>> Signed-off-by: huang lin <hl@rock-chips.com> >> >>> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com> >> >>> --- >> >>> Changes since v1: >> >>> - As suggested by Daniel Thompson >> >>> - Do not assume power-on delay and power-off delay will be the same >> >>> >> >>> v1: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/28/219 >> >>> >> >>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt | 6 ++++++ >> >>> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) >> >>> >> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> >>> index 764db86..49b037e 100644 >> >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt >> >>> @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: >> >>> "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) >> >>> - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables >> >>> and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) >> >>> + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and >> >>> + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling >> >>> + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. >> >>> + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. >> >>> + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. >> >> >> >> pre and post imply a time before and after a certain event, but these >> >> are for 2 different events. These are more like an enable/on delay and >> >> disable/off delay which probably should be separate properties. What >> >> happens when we need the opposite sequence or a different sequence? >> >> Maybe some panel requires the PWM to be 0 until some time after >> >> enabling. >> >> >> >> A second proposal, what do you think? >> >> - post-pwm-on-delay-us: Delay in us after setting an initial (non-zero) PWM >> and enabling the backlight using GPIO. > > This says "PWM on", "enable GPIO", "delay". Which is not what you > want. > Ok, seems I need to improve a bit more my English skills. :) after -> between ? Then, if I understand correctly, this (found in another binding that I used as reference) - post-power-on-delay-ms : Delay in ms after powering the card and de-asserting the reset-gpios (if any) means, Power the card, de-asserting reset, delay ? Regards, Enric. > -- > (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek > (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fbdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt index 764db86..49b037e 100644 --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/backlight/pwm-backlight.txt @@ -17,6 +17,11 @@ Optional properties: "pwms" property (see PWM binding[0]) - enable-gpios: contains a single GPIO specifier for the GPIO which enables and disables the backlight (see GPIO binding[1]) + - pwm-delay-us: delay between setting an initial (non-zero) PWM value and + enabling the backlight, and also the delay between disabling + the backlight and setting PWM value to 0. + The 1st cell is the pre-delay in micro seconds. + The 2nd cell is the post-delay in micro seconds. [0]: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/pwm.txt [1]: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/gpio/gpio.txt @@ -32,4 +37,5 @@ Example: power-supply = <&vdd_bl_reg>; enable-gpios = <&gpio 58 0>; + pwm-delay-us = <10000 10000>; };