Message ID | 20220923173618.6899-1-p.raghav@samsung.com (mailing list archive) |
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> Hi Jens, > Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. > Hi Jens, Christoph, and Keith, All the patches have a Reviewed-by tag at this point. Can we queue this up for 6.1? -- Pankaj -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
On 9/29/22 12:31 AM, Pankaj Raghav wrote: >> Hi Jens, >> Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. >> > > Hi Jens, Christoph, and Keith, > All the patches have a Reviewed-by tag at this point. Can we queue this up > for 6.1? It's getting pretty late for 6.1 and I'd really like to have both Christoph and Martin sign off on these changes.
On 9/30/22 08:13, Jens Axboe wrote: > On 9/29/22 12:31 AM, Pankaj Raghav wrote: >>> Hi Jens, >>> Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. >>> >> >> Hi Jens, Christoph, and Keith, >> All the patches have a Reviewed-by tag at this point. Can we queue this up >> for 6.1? > > It's getting pretty late for 6.1 and I'd really like to have both Christoph > and Martin sign off on these changes. Hi Jens, Agreed that it's getting late for 6.1. Since this has not been mentioned in the cover letter, I want to add that in the near future we will need these patches for Android devices. JEDEC is working on supporting zoned storage for UFS devices, the storage devices used in all modern Android phones. Although it would be possible to make the offset between zone starts a power of two by inserting gap zones between data zones, UFS vendors asked not to do this and hence need support for zone sizes that are not a power of two. An advantage of not having to deal with gap zones is better filesystem performance since filesystem extents cannot span gap zones. Having to split filesystem extents because of gap zones reduces filesystem performance. Thanks, Bart. -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
On 9/30/22 1:38 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote: > On 9/30/22 08:13, Jens Axboe wrote: >> On 9/29/22 12:31 AM, Pankaj Raghav wrote: >>>> Hi Jens, >>>> ?? Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. >>>> >>> >>> Hi Jens, Christoph, and Keith, >>> ? All the patches have a Reviewed-by tag at this point. Can we queue this up >>> for 6.1? >> >> It's getting pretty late for 6.1 and I'd really like to have both Christoph >> and Martin sign off on these changes. > > Hi Jens, > > Agreed that it's getting late for 6.1. > > Since this has not been mentioned in the cover letter, I want to add > that in the near future we will need these patches for Android > devices. JEDEC is working on supporting zoned storage for UFS devices, > the storage devices used in all modern Android phones. Although it > would be possible to make the offset between zone starts a power of > two by inserting gap zones between data zones, UFS vendors asked not > to do this and hence need support for zone sizes that are not a power > of two. An advantage of not having to deal with gap zones is better > filesystem performance since filesystem extents cannot span gap zones. > Having to split filesystem extents because of gap zones reduces > filesystem performance. Noted. I'll find some time to review this as well separately, once we're on the other side of the merge window.
On 10/1/22 04:38, Bart Van Assche wrote: > On 9/30/22 08:13, Jens Axboe wrote: >> On 9/29/22 12:31 AM, Pankaj Raghav wrote: >>>> Hi Jens, >>>> Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. >>>> >>> >>> Hi Jens, Christoph, and Keith, >>> All the patches have a Reviewed-by tag at this point. Can we queue this up >>> for 6.1? >> >> It's getting pretty late for 6.1 and I'd really like to have both Christoph >> and Martin sign off on these changes. > > Hi Jens, > > Agreed that it's getting late for 6.1. > > Since this has not been mentioned in the cover letter, I want to add > that in the near future we will need these patches for Android devices. > JEDEC is working on supporting zoned storage for UFS devices, the > storage devices used in all modern Android phones. Although it would be > possible to make the offset between zone starts a power of two by > inserting gap zones between data zones, UFS vendors asked not to do this > and hence need support for zone sizes that are not a power of two. An > advantage of not having to deal with gap zones is better filesystem > performance since filesystem extents cannot span gap zones. Having to > split filesystem extents because of gap zones reduces filesystem > performance. As mentioned many times, my opinion is that a good implementation should *not* have any extent span zone boundaries. So personally, I do not consider such argument as a valid justification for the non-power-of-2 zone size support. > > Thanks, > > Bart. > >
On 9/30/22 17:45, Damien Le Moal wrote: > On 10/1/22 04:38, Bart Van Assche wrote: >> Since this has not been mentioned in the cover letter, I want to add >> that in the near future we will need these patches for Android devices. >> JEDEC is working on supporting zoned storage for UFS devices, the >> storage devices used in all modern Android phones. Although it would be >> possible to make the offset between zone starts a power of two by >> inserting gap zones between data zones, UFS vendors asked not to do this >> and hence need support for zone sizes that are not a power of two. An >> advantage of not having to deal with gap zones is better filesystem >> performance since filesystem extents cannot span gap zones. Having to >> split filesystem extents because of gap zones reduces filesystem >> performance. > > As mentioned many times, my opinion is that a good implementation should > *not* have any extent span zone boundaries. So personally, I do not > consider such argument as a valid justification for the non-power-of-2 > zone size support. Hi Damien, Although the filesystem extent issue probably can be solved in software, the argument that UFS vendors strongly prefer not to have gap zones and hence need support for zone sizes that are not a power of two remains. Thanks, Bart. -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
On 9/30/22 14:24, Jens Axboe wrote: > Noted. I'll find some time to review this as well separately, once we're > on the other side of the merge window. Hi Jens, Now that we are on the other side of the merge window: do you perhaps want Pankaj to repost this patch series? From what I have heard in several fora (JEDEC, SNIA) all flash storage vendors except one (WDC) are in favor of a contiguous LBA space and hence are in favor of supporting zone sizes that are not a power of two. As you may know in JEDEC we are working on standardizing zoned storage for UFS devices. We (JEDEC JC-64.1 committee members) would like to know whether or not we should require that the UFS zone size should be a power of two. Thank you, Bart. -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel
Hi Pankaj, On 9/24/2022 1:36 AM, Pankaj Raghav wrote: > Hi Jens, > Please consider this patch series for the 6.1 release. > > - Background and Motivation: > > The zone storage implementation in Linux, introduced since v4.10, first > targetted SMR drives which have a power of 2 (po2) zone size alignment > requirement. The po2 zone size was further imposed implicitly by the > block layer's blk_queue_chunk_sectors(), used to prevent IO merging > across chunks beyond the specified size, since v3.16 through commit > 762380ad9322 ("block: add notion of a chunk size for request merging"). > But this same general block layer po2 requirement for blk_queue_chunk_sectors() > was removed on v5.10 through commit 07d098e6bbad ("block: allow 'chunk_sectors' > to be non-power-of-2"). > > NAND, which is the media used in newer zoned storage devices, does not > naturally align to po2. In these devices, zone capacity(cap) is not the > same as the po2 zone size. When the zone cap != zone size, then unmapped > LBAs are introduced to cover the space between the zone cap and zone size. > po2 requirement does not make sense for these type of zone storage devices. > This patch series aims to remove these unmapped LBAs for zoned devices when > zone cap is npo2. This is done by relaxing the po2 zone size constraint > in the kernel and allowing zoned device with npo2 zone sizes if zone cap > == zone size. I came across function sd_zbc_check_capacity() in sd_zbc.c, it still errors out in case of npo2. I don't see this series touching sd_zbc.c. Is there plan or existing change to relax this check? if(!*is_power_of_2* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/is_power_of_2>(*zone_blocks* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/zone_blocks>)){ *sd_printk* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/sd_printk>(*KERN_ERR* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/KERN_ERR>,sdkp, "Zone size %llu is not a power of two.\n", *zone_blocks* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/zone_blocks>); return-*EINVAL* <https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.2-rc2/C/ident/EINVAL>; } Thanks. Regards, Can Guo. -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel