| Message ID | 20230320180745.556821285@redhat.com (mailing list archive) |
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| State | New |
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| Series | fold per-CPU vmstats remotely | expand |
On Mon 20-03-23 15:03:33, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > A customer provided evidence indicating that a process > was stalled in direct reclaim: > > - The process was trapped in throttle_direct_reclaim(). > The function wait_event_killable() was called to wait condition > allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) for current node to be true. > The allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) examined the number of free pages > on the node by zone_page_state() which just returns value in > zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES]. > > - On node #1, zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES] was 0. > However, the freelist on this node was not empty. > > - This inconsistent of vmstat value was caused by percpu vmstat on > nohz_full cpus. Every increment/decrement of vmstat is performed > on percpu vmstat counter at first, then pooled diffs are cumulated > to the zone's vmstat counter in timely manner. However, on nohz_full > cpus (in case of this customer's system, 48 of 52 cpus) these pooled > diffs were not cumulated once the cpu had no event on it so that > the cpu started sleeping infinitely. > I checked percpu vmstat and found there were total 69 counts not > cumulated to the zone's vmstat counter yet. > > - In this situation, kswapd did not help the trapped process. > In pgdat_balanced(), zone_wakermark_ok_safe() examined the number > of free pages on the node by zone_page_state_snapshot() which > checks pending counts on percpu vmstat. > Therefore kswapd could know there were 69 free pages correctly. > Since zone->_watermark = {8, 20, 32}, kswapd did not work because > 69 was greater than 32 as high watermark. > > Change allow_direct_reclaim to use zone_page_state_snapshot, which > allows a more precise version of the vmstat counters to be used. > > allow_direct_reclaim will only be called from try_to_free_pages, > which is not a hot path. Have you managed to test this patch to confirm it addresses the above issue? It should but better double check that. > Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> The patch makes sense regardless but a note about testing should be added. Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> > > --- > > Index: linux-vmstat-remote/mm/vmscan.c > =================================================================== > --- linux-vmstat-remote.orig/mm/vmscan.c > +++ linux-vmstat-remote/mm/vmscan.c > @@ -6861,7 +6861,7 @@ static bool allow_direct_reclaim(pg_data > continue; > > pfmemalloc_reserve += min_wmark_pages(zone); > - free_pages += zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES); > + free_pages += zone_page_state_snapshot(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES); > } > > /* If there are no reserves (unexpected config) then do not throttle */ >
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 07:21:04PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Mon 20-03-23 15:03:33, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > A customer provided evidence indicating that a process > > was stalled in direct reclaim: > > > > - The process was trapped in throttle_direct_reclaim(). > > The function wait_event_killable() was called to wait condition > > allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) for current node to be true. > > The allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) examined the number of free pages > > on the node by zone_page_state() which just returns value in > > zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES]. > > > > - On node #1, zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES] was 0. > > However, the freelist on this node was not empty. > > > > - This inconsistent of vmstat value was caused by percpu vmstat on > > nohz_full cpus. Every increment/decrement of vmstat is performed > > on percpu vmstat counter at first, then pooled diffs are cumulated > > to the zone's vmstat counter in timely manner. However, on nohz_full > > cpus (in case of this customer's system, 48 of 52 cpus) these pooled > > diffs were not cumulated once the cpu had no event on it so that > > the cpu started sleeping infinitely. > > I checked percpu vmstat and found there were total 69 counts not > > cumulated to the zone's vmstat counter yet. > > > > - In this situation, kswapd did not help the trapped process. > > In pgdat_balanced(), zone_wakermark_ok_safe() examined the number > > of free pages on the node by zone_page_state_snapshot() which > > checks pending counts on percpu vmstat. > > Therefore kswapd could know there were 69 free pages correctly. > > Since zone->_watermark = {8, 20, 32}, kswapd did not work because > > 69 was greater than 32 as high watermark. > > > > Change allow_direct_reclaim to use zone_page_state_snapshot, which > > allows a more precise version of the vmstat counters to be used. > > > > allow_direct_reclaim will only be called from try_to_free_pages, > > which is not a hot path. > > Have you managed to test this patch to confirm it addresses the above > issue? It should but better double check that. > > > Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> > > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> > > The patch makes sense regardless but a note about testing should be > added. > > Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> Michal, The patch has not been tested in the original setup where the problem was found, however i don't think its easy to do that validation (checking with the reporter anyway). Perhaps one could find a synthetic reproducer. It is pretty easy to note that, on an isolated nohz_full CPU, the deferrable timer that is queued on it (timer which should queue vmstat_update on that CPU) does not execute for long periods. This makes the global stats stale (since per-CPU free pages can become stale for as long as the CPU has tick processing stopped). Which matches the data available. Thanks!
On Mon 20-03-23 15:32:15, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 07:21:04PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Mon 20-03-23 15:03:33, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > > > A customer provided evidence indicating that a process > > > was stalled in direct reclaim: > > > > > > - The process was trapped in throttle_direct_reclaim(). > > > The function wait_event_killable() was called to wait condition > > > allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) for current node to be true. > > > The allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) examined the number of free pages > > > on the node by zone_page_state() which just returns value in > > > zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES]. > > > > > > - On node #1, zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES] was 0. > > > However, the freelist on this node was not empty. > > > > > > - This inconsistent of vmstat value was caused by percpu vmstat on > > > nohz_full cpus. Every increment/decrement of vmstat is performed > > > on percpu vmstat counter at first, then pooled diffs are cumulated > > > to the zone's vmstat counter in timely manner. However, on nohz_full > > > cpus (in case of this customer's system, 48 of 52 cpus) these pooled > > > diffs were not cumulated once the cpu had no event on it so that > > > the cpu started sleeping infinitely. > > > I checked percpu vmstat and found there were total 69 counts not > > > cumulated to the zone's vmstat counter yet. > > > > > > - In this situation, kswapd did not help the trapped process. > > > In pgdat_balanced(), zone_wakermark_ok_safe() examined the number > > > of free pages on the node by zone_page_state_snapshot() which > > > checks pending counts on percpu vmstat. > > > Therefore kswapd could know there were 69 free pages correctly. > > > Since zone->_watermark = {8, 20, 32}, kswapd did not work because > > > 69 was greater than 32 as high watermark. > > > > > > Change allow_direct_reclaim to use zone_page_state_snapshot, which > > > allows a more precise version of the vmstat counters to be used. > > > > > > allow_direct_reclaim will only be called from try_to_free_pages, > > > which is not a hot path. > > > > Have you managed to test this patch to confirm it addresses the above > > issue? It should but better double check that. > > > > > Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> > > > Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> > > > > The patch makes sense regardless but a note about testing should be > > added. > > > > Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> > > Michal, > > The patch has not been tested in the original setup where the problem > was found, however i don't think its easy to do that validation > (checking with the reporter anyway). This is a fair point and I would just add it to the changelog for the future reference.
Index: linux-vmstat-remote/mm/vmscan.c =================================================================== --- linux-vmstat-remote.orig/mm/vmscan.c +++ linux-vmstat-remote/mm/vmscan.c @@ -6861,7 +6861,7 @@ static bool allow_direct_reclaim(pg_data continue; pfmemalloc_reserve += min_wmark_pages(zone); - free_pages += zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES); + free_pages += zone_page_state_snapshot(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES); } /* If there are no reserves (unexpected config) then do not throttle */
A customer provided evidence indicating that a process was stalled in direct reclaim: - The process was trapped in throttle_direct_reclaim(). The function wait_event_killable() was called to wait condition allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) for current node to be true. The allow_direct_reclaim(pgdat) examined the number of free pages on the node by zone_page_state() which just returns value in zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES]. - On node #1, zone->vm_stat[NR_FREE_PAGES] was 0. However, the freelist on this node was not empty. - This inconsistent of vmstat value was caused by percpu vmstat on nohz_full cpus. Every increment/decrement of vmstat is performed on percpu vmstat counter at first, then pooled diffs are cumulated to the zone's vmstat counter in timely manner. However, on nohz_full cpus (in case of this customer's system, 48 of 52 cpus) these pooled diffs were not cumulated once the cpu had no event on it so that the cpu started sleeping infinitely. I checked percpu vmstat and found there were total 69 counts not cumulated to the zone's vmstat counter yet. - In this situation, kswapd did not help the trapped process. In pgdat_balanced(), zone_wakermark_ok_safe() examined the number of free pages on the node by zone_page_state_snapshot() which checks pending counts on percpu vmstat. Therefore kswapd could know there were 69 free pages correctly. Since zone->_watermark = {8, 20, 32}, kswapd did not work because 69 was greater than 32 as high watermark. Change allow_direct_reclaim to use zone_page_state_snapshot, which allows a more precise version of the vmstat counters to be used. allow_direct_reclaim will only be called from try_to_free_pages, which is not a hot path. Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> ---