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[v6,3/4] tee: optee: support tracking system threads

Message ID 20230505173012.881083-3-etienne.carriere@linaro.org (mailing list archive)
State New, archived
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Series [v6,1/4] tee: optee: system call property | expand

Commit Message

Etienne Carriere May 5, 2023, 5:30 p.m. UTC
From: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>

Adds support in the OP-TEE driver to keep track of reserved system
threads. The optee_cq_*() functions are updated to handle this if
enabled. The SMC ABI part of the driver enables this tracking, but the
FF-A ABI part does not.

Signed-off-by: Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
Signed-off-by: Etienne Carriere <etienne.carriere@linaro.org>
---
No change since v5

Changes since v4:
- New change that supersedes implementation proposed in PATCH v4
  (tee: system invocation"). Thanks to Jens implementation we don't need
  the new OP-TEE services that my previous patch versions introduced to
  monitor system threads entry. Now, Linux optee SMC ABI driver gets TEE
  provisioned thread contexts count once and monitors thread entries in
  OP-TEE on that basis and the system thread capability of the related
  tee session. By the way, I dropped the WARN_ONCE() call I suggested
  on tee thread exhaustion as it does not provides useful information.
---
 drivers/tee/optee/call.c          | 128 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
 drivers/tee/optee/ffa_abi.c       |  10 +--
 drivers/tee/optee/optee_private.h |  13 ++-
 drivers/tee/optee/smc_abi.c       |  24 ++++--
 4 files changed, 154 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)

Comments

Sumit Garg May 15, 2023, 8:47 a.m. UTC | #1
On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 10:27, Etienne Carriere
<etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:31, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:49, Etienne Carriere
> > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 09:27, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +       bool rc = false;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +       mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IMO, this might be counter productive. As most kernel drivers open a
> > > > > > > session during driver probe which are only released in the driver
> > > > > > > release method.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is always the case?
> > > > >
> > > > > This answer of mine is irrelevant. Sorry,
> > > > > Please read only the below comments of mine, especially:
> > > > > | Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > | bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the kernel driver is built-in then the session is
> > > > > > > never released. Now with system threads we would reserve an OP-TEE
> > > > > > > thread for that kernel driver as well which will never be available to
> > > > > > > regular user-space clients.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is not true. No driver currently requests their TEE thread to be
> > > > > > a system thread.
> > > > > > Only SCMI does because it needs to by construction.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes that's true but what prevents future/current kernel TEE drivers
> > > > from requesting a system thread once we have this patch-set landed.
> > >
> > > Only clients really needing this system_thread attribute should request it.
> > > If they really need, the OP-TEE firmware in secure world should
> > > provision sufficient thread context.
> >
> > How do we quantify it? We definitely need a policy here regarding
> > normal vs system threads.
> >
> > One argument in favor of kernel clients requiring system threads could
> > be that we don't want to compete with user-space for OP-TEE threads.
>
> Sorry I don't understand. What do you mean qualifying this?

I mean we have to fairly allocate threads among system and non-system
thread invocations.

> In an ideal situation, we would have OP-TEE provisioned with largely
> sufficient thread contexts. However there are systems with constraints
> memory resource that do lower at most the number of OP-TEE thread
> contexts.
>

Yeah, I think we are on the same page here.

>
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I would rather suggest we only allow a
> > > > > > > single system thread to be reserved as a starting point which is
> > > > > > > relevant to this critical SCMI service. We can also make this upper
> > > > > > > bound for system threads configurable with default value as 1 if
> > > > > > > needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that SCMI server can expose several SCMI channels (at most 1 per
> > > > > SCMI protocol used) and each of them will need to request a
> > > > > system_thread to TEE driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > Etienne
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reserving one or more system threads depends on the number of thread
> > > > > > context provisioned by the TEE.
> > > > > > Note that the implementation proposed here prevents Linux kernel from
> > > > > > exhausting TEE threads so user space always has at least a TEE thread
> > > > > > context left available.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but on the other hand user-space clients which are comparatively
> > > > larger in number than kernel clients. So they will be starved for
> > > > OP-TEE thread availability. Consider a user-space client which needs
> > > > to serve a lot of TLS connections just waiting for OP-TEE thread
> > > > availability.
> > >
> > > Note that OP-TEE default configuration provisions (number of CPUs + 1)
> > > thread context, so the situation is already present before these
> > > changes on systems that embedded an OP-TEE without a properly tuned
> > > configuration. As I said above, Linux kernel cannot be responsible for
> > > the total number of thread contexts provisioned in OP-TEE. If the
> > > overall system requires a lot of TEE thread contexts, one should embed
> > > a suitable OP-TEE firmware.
> >
> > Wouldn't the SCMI deadlock problem be solved with just having a lot of
> > OP-TEE threads? But we are discussing the system threads solution here
> > to make efficient use of OP-TEE threads. The total number of OP-TEE
> > threads is definitely in control of OP-TEE but the control of how to
> > schedule and efficiently use them lies with the Linux OP-TEE driver.
> >
> > So, given our overall discussion in this thread, how about the upper
> > bound for system threads being 50% of the total number of OP-TEE
> > threads?
>
> What would be a shame if the system does not use any Linux kernel
> client sessions, only userland clients. This information cannot be
> knwon be the linux optee driver.
> Instead of leaving at least 1 TEE thread context for regular session,
> what if this change enforce 2? or 3? Which count?
> I think 1 is a fair choice: it allows to support OP-TEE firmwares with
> a very small thread context pool (when running in small secure
> memory), embedding only 2 or 3 contextes.

IMO, leaving only 1 thread for user-space will starve TLS based
applications. How about the following change on top of this patchset?

diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
index 8b8181099da7..1deb5907d075 100644
--- a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
+++ b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
@@ -182,8 +182,8 @@ bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct
optee_call_queue *cq)

        mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);

-       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
-       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count + 1 < cq->total_thread_count) {
+       /* Leave at least 50% for normal (non-system) threads */
+       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count < cq->total_thread_count/2) {
                cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
                cq->res_sys_thread_count++;
                rc = true;

>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > >
> > > > tee_client_open_session()
> > > >   -> optee_open_session()
> > > >
> > > > tee_client_system_session()
> > > >   -> optee_system_session()
> > > >     -> optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count()       <- At this point you
> > > > reserve a system thread corresponding to a particular kernel client
> > > > session
> > > >
> > > > All tee_client_invoke_func() invocations with a system thread capable
> > > > session will use that reserved thread.
> > > >
> > > > tee_client_close_session()
> > > >   -> optee_close_session()
> > > >     -> optee_close_session_helper()
> > > >       -> optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count()    <- At this point the
> > > > reserved system thread is released
> > > >
> > > > Haven't this tied the system thread to a particular TEE session? Or am
> > > > I missing something?
> > >
> > > These changes do not define an overall single system thread.
> > > If several sessions requests reservation of TEE system thread, has
> > > many will be reserved.
> > > Only the very sessions with its sys_thread attribute set will use a
> > > reserved thread. If such a kernel client issues several concurrent
> > > calls to OP-TEE over that session, it will indeed consume more
> > > reserved system threads than what is actually reserved. Here I think
> > > it is the responsibility of such client to open as many sessions as
> > > requests. This is what scmi/optee driver does (see patch v6 4/4). An
> > > alternative would be to have a ref count of sys_thread in session
> > > contexts rather than a boolean value. I don't think it's worth it.
> >
> > Ah, I missed that during the review. The invocations with system
> > threads should be limited by res_sys_thread_count in a similar manner
> > as we do with normal threads via free_normal_thread_count. Otherwise,
> > it's unfair for normal thread scheduling.
> >
> > I suppose there isn't any interdependency among SCMI channels itself
> > such that a particular SCMI invocation can wait until the other SCMI
> > invocation has completed.
>
> I think that would over complexify the logic.
>

We shouldn't allow system thread invocations to be greater than what
is actually reserved count for system threads. One thing I am not able
to understand here is why do you need a lot of system threads? Are
SCMI operations too expensive? I suppose those should just involve
configuring some register bits and using a single OP-TEE thread which
is invoked sequentially should be enough.

-Sumit

> Note I will send a patch v8 series but feel free to continue the discussion.
> It will at least address other comments you shared.
>
> Best regards,
> Etienne
>
> >
> > -Sumit
Etienne Carriere May 16, 2023, 5:58 a.m. UTC | #2
Hello Sumit,

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 10:48, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 10:27, Etienne Carriere
> <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:31, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:49, Etienne Carriere
> > > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 09:27, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
> > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > +       bool rc = false;
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +       mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IMO, this might be counter productive. As most kernel drivers open a
> > > > > > > > session during driver probe which are only released in the driver
> > > > > > > > release method.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is always the case?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This answer of mine is irrelevant. Sorry,
> > > > > > Please read only the below comments of mine, especially:
> > > > > > | Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > | bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kernel driver is built-in then the session is
> > > > > > > > never released. Now with system threads we would reserve an OP-TEE
> > > > > > > > thread for that kernel driver as well which will never be available to
> > > > > > > > regular user-space clients.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is not true. No driver currently requests their TEE thread to be
> > > > > > > a system thread.
> > > > > > > Only SCMI does because it needs to by construction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes that's true but what prevents future/current kernel TEE drivers
> > > > > from requesting a system thread once we have this patch-set landed.
> > > >
> > > > Only clients really needing this system_thread attribute should request it.
> > > > If they really need, the OP-TEE firmware in secure world should
> > > > provision sufficient thread context.
> > >
> > > How do we quantify it? We definitely need a policy here regarding
> > > normal vs system threads.
> > >
> > > One argument in favor of kernel clients requiring system threads could
> > > be that we don't want to compete with user-space for OP-TEE threads.
> >
> > Sorry I don't understand. What do you mean qualifying this?
>
> I mean we have to fairly allocate threads among system and non-system
> thread invocations.
>
> > In an ideal situation, we would have OP-TEE provisioned with largely
> > sufficient thread contexts. However there are systems with constraints
> > memory resource that do lower at most the number of OP-TEE thread
> > contexts.
> >
>
> Yeah, I think we are on the same page here.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So I would rather suggest we only allow a
> > > > > > > > single system thread to be reserved as a starting point which is
> > > > > > > > relevant to this critical SCMI service. We can also make this upper
> > > > > > > > bound for system threads configurable with default value as 1 if
> > > > > > > > needed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that SCMI server can expose several SCMI channels (at most 1 per
> > > > > > SCMI protocol used) and each of them will need to request a
> > > > > > system_thread to TEE driver.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Etienne
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reserving one or more system threads depends on the number of thread
> > > > > > > context provisioned by the TEE.
> > > > > > > Note that the implementation proposed here prevents Linux kernel from
> > > > > > > exhausting TEE threads so user space always has at least a TEE thread
> > > > > > > context left available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah but on the other hand user-space clients which are comparatively
> > > > > larger in number than kernel clients. So they will be starved for
> > > > > OP-TEE thread availability. Consider a user-space client which needs
> > > > > to serve a lot of TLS connections just waiting for OP-TEE thread
> > > > > availability.
> > > >
> > > > Note that OP-TEE default configuration provisions (number of CPUs + 1)
> > > > thread context, so the situation is already present before these
> > > > changes on systems that embedded an OP-TEE without a properly tuned
> > > > configuration. As I said above, Linux kernel cannot be responsible for
> > > > the total number of thread contexts provisioned in OP-TEE. If the
> > > > overall system requires a lot of TEE thread contexts, one should embed
> > > > a suitable OP-TEE firmware.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't the SCMI deadlock problem be solved with just having a lot of
> > > OP-TEE threads? But we are discussing the system threads solution here
> > > to make efficient use of OP-TEE threads. The total number of OP-TEE
> > > threads is definitely in control of OP-TEE but the control of how to
> > > schedule and efficiently use them lies with the Linux OP-TEE driver.
> > >
> > > So, given our overall discussion in this thread, how about the upper
> > > bound for system threads being 50% of the total number of OP-TEE
> > > threads?
> >
> > What would be a shame if the system does not use any Linux kernel
> > client sessions, only userland clients. This information cannot be
> > knwon be the linux optee driver.
> > Instead of leaving at least 1 TEE thread context for regular session,
> > what if this change enforce 2? or 3? Which count?
> > I think 1 is a fair choice: it allows to support OP-TEE firmwares with
> > a very small thread context pool (when running in small secure
> > memory), embedding only 2 or 3 contextes.
>
> IMO, leaving only 1 thread for user-space will starve TLS based
> applications. How about the following change on top of this patchset?
>
> diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> index 8b8181099da7..1deb5907d075 100644
> --- a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> +++ b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> @@ -182,8 +182,8 @@ bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct
> optee_call_queue *cq)
>
>         mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
>
> -       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> -       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count + 1 < cq->total_thread_count) {
> +       /* Leave at least 50% for normal (non-system) threads */
> +       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count < cq->total_thread_count/2) {
>                 cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
>                 cq->res_sys_thread_count++;
>                 rc = true;
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > > bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > >
> > > > > tee_client_open_session()
> > > > >   -> optee_open_session()
> > > > >
> > > > > tee_client_system_session()
> > > > >   -> optee_system_session()
> > > > >     -> optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count()       <- At this point you
> > > > > reserve a system thread corresponding to a particular kernel client
> > > > > session
> > > > >
> > > > > All tee_client_invoke_func() invocations with a system thread capable
> > > > > session will use that reserved thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > tee_client_close_session()
> > > > >   -> optee_close_session()
> > > > >     -> optee_close_session_helper()
> > > > >       -> optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count()    <- At this point the
> > > > > reserved system thread is released
> > > > >
> > > > > Haven't this tied the system thread to a particular TEE session? Or am
> > > > > I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > These changes do not define an overall single system thread.
> > > > If several sessions requests reservation of TEE system thread, has
> > > > many will be reserved.
> > > > Only the very sessions with its sys_thread attribute set will use a
> > > > reserved thread. If such a kernel client issues several concurrent
> > > > calls to OP-TEE over that session, it will indeed consume more
> > > > reserved system threads than what is actually reserved. Here I think
> > > > it is the responsibility of such client to open as many sessions as
> > > > requests. This is what scmi/optee driver does (see patch v6 4/4). An
> > > > alternative would be to have a ref count of sys_thread in session
> > > > contexts rather than a boolean value. I don't think it's worth it.
> > >
> > > Ah, I missed that during the review. The invocations with system
> > > threads should be limited by res_sys_thread_count in a similar manner
> > > as we do with normal threads via free_normal_thread_count. Otherwise,
> > > it's unfair for normal thread scheduling.
> > >
> > > I suppose there isn't any interdependency among SCMI channels itself
> > > such that a particular SCMI invocation can wait until the other SCMI
> > > invocation has completed.
> >
> > I think that would over complexify the logic.
> >
>
> We shouldn't allow system thread invocations to be greater than what
> is actually reserved count for system threads. One thing I am not able
> to understand here is why do you need a lot of system threads? Are
> SCMI operations too expensive? I suppose those should just involve
> configuring some register bits and using a single OP-TEE thread which
> is invoked sequentially should be enough.

Ok, I get your point.
I think you're right, reserving at most 1 TEE thread for system
sessions should be enough to prevent TEE entry calls deadlocks which
is the purpose of these changee.

Would you be ok if the following logic: optee driver would reserve at
most 1 TEE call entry for system sessions.
If at least 1 kernel client claims a system session, a TEE call entry
is reserved to that purpose.
Once all system sessions are closed, the TEE reserved system call
entry is released.
When a system thread calls the TEE, if the TEE system thread context
is not already in use, then that client consumes the reserved entry.
If the system thread context is already in use, then that client call
is treated as a regular call: it calls the TEE and would return
waiting for a free thread if no TEE thread context is available.

Etienne


>
> -Sumit
>
> > Note I will send a patch v8 series but feel free to continue the discussion.
> > It will at least address other comments you shared.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Etienne
> >
> > >
> > > -Sumit
Sumit Garg May 16, 2023, 6:32 a.m. UTC | #3
On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 11:28, Etienne Carriere
<etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Sumit,
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 10:48, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 10:27, Etienne Carriere
> > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:31, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:49, Etienne Carriere
> > > > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 09:27, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
> > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > +       bool rc = false;
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +       mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > IMO, this might be counter productive. As most kernel drivers open a
> > > > > > > > > session during driver probe which are only released in the driver
> > > > > > > > > release method.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is always the case?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This answer of mine is irrelevant. Sorry,
> > > > > > > Please read only the below comments of mine, especially:
> > > > > > > | Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > > | bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the kernel driver is built-in then the session is
> > > > > > > > > never released. Now with system threads we would reserve an OP-TEE
> > > > > > > > > thread for that kernel driver as well which will never be available to
> > > > > > > > > regular user-space clients.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That is not true. No driver currently requests their TEE thread to be
> > > > > > > > a system thread.
> > > > > > > > Only SCMI does because it needs to by construction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes that's true but what prevents future/current kernel TEE drivers
> > > > > > from requesting a system thread once we have this patch-set landed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only clients really needing this system_thread attribute should request it.
> > > > > If they really need, the OP-TEE firmware in secure world should
> > > > > provision sufficient thread context.
> > > >
> > > > How do we quantify it? We definitely need a policy here regarding
> > > > normal vs system threads.
> > > >
> > > > One argument in favor of kernel clients requiring system threads could
> > > > be that we don't want to compete with user-space for OP-TEE threads.
> > >
> > > Sorry I don't understand. What do you mean qualifying this?
> >
> > I mean we have to fairly allocate threads among system and non-system
> > thread invocations.
> >
> > > In an ideal situation, we would have OP-TEE provisioned with largely
> > > sufficient thread contexts. However there are systems with constraints
> > > memory resource that do lower at most the number of OP-TEE thread
> > > contexts.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I think we are on the same page here.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So I would rather suggest we only allow a
> > > > > > > > > single system thread to be reserved as a starting point which is
> > > > > > > > > relevant to this critical SCMI service. We can also make this upper
> > > > > > > > > bound for system threads configurable with default value as 1 if
> > > > > > > > > needed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that SCMI server can expose several SCMI channels (at most 1 per
> > > > > > > SCMI protocol used) and each of them will need to request a
> > > > > > > system_thread to TEE driver.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Etienne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Reserving one or more system threads depends on the number of thread
> > > > > > > > context provisioned by the TEE.
> > > > > > > > Note that the implementation proposed here prevents Linux kernel from
> > > > > > > > exhausting TEE threads so user space always has at least a TEE thread
> > > > > > > > context left available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah but on the other hand user-space clients which are comparatively
> > > > > > larger in number than kernel clients. So they will be starved for
> > > > > > OP-TEE thread availability. Consider a user-space client which needs
> > > > > > to serve a lot of TLS connections just waiting for OP-TEE thread
> > > > > > availability.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that OP-TEE default configuration provisions (number of CPUs + 1)
> > > > > thread context, so the situation is already present before these
> > > > > changes on systems that embedded an OP-TEE without a properly tuned
> > > > > configuration. As I said above, Linux kernel cannot be responsible for
> > > > > the total number of thread contexts provisioned in OP-TEE. If the
> > > > > overall system requires a lot of TEE thread contexts, one should embed
> > > > > a suitable OP-TEE firmware.
> > > >
> > > > Wouldn't the SCMI deadlock problem be solved with just having a lot of
> > > > OP-TEE threads? But we are discussing the system threads solution here
> > > > to make efficient use of OP-TEE threads. The total number of OP-TEE
> > > > threads is definitely in control of OP-TEE but the control of how to
> > > > schedule and efficiently use them lies with the Linux OP-TEE driver.
> > > >
> > > > So, given our overall discussion in this thread, how about the upper
> > > > bound for system threads being 50% of the total number of OP-TEE
> > > > threads?
> > >
> > > What would be a shame if the system does not use any Linux kernel
> > > client sessions, only userland clients. This information cannot be
> > > knwon be the linux optee driver.
> > > Instead of leaving at least 1 TEE thread context for regular session,
> > > what if this change enforce 2? or 3? Which count?
> > > I think 1 is a fair choice: it allows to support OP-TEE firmwares with
> > > a very small thread context pool (when running in small secure
> > > memory), embedding only 2 or 3 contextes.
> >
> > IMO, leaving only 1 thread for user-space will starve TLS based
> > applications. How about the following change on top of this patchset?
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > index 8b8181099da7..1deb5907d075 100644
> > --- a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > +++ b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > @@ -182,8 +182,8 @@ bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct
> > optee_call_queue *cq)
> >
> >         mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> >
> > -       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > -       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count + 1 < cq->total_thread_count) {
> > +       /* Leave at least 50% for normal (non-system) threads */
> > +       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count < cq->total_thread_count/2) {
> >                 cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
> >                 cq->res_sys_thread_count++;
> >                 rc = true;
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > > > bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tee_client_open_session()
> > > > > >   -> optee_open_session()
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tee_client_system_session()
> > > > > >   -> optee_system_session()
> > > > > >     -> optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count()       <- At this point you
> > > > > > reserve a system thread corresponding to a particular kernel client
> > > > > > session
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All tee_client_invoke_func() invocations with a system thread capable
> > > > > > session will use that reserved thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tee_client_close_session()
> > > > > >   -> optee_close_session()
> > > > > >     -> optee_close_session_helper()
> > > > > >       -> optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count()    <- At this point the
> > > > > > reserved system thread is released
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Haven't this tied the system thread to a particular TEE session? Or am
> > > > > > I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > These changes do not define an overall single system thread.
> > > > > If several sessions requests reservation of TEE system thread, has
> > > > > many will be reserved.
> > > > > Only the very sessions with its sys_thread attribute set will use a
> > > > > reserved thread. If such a kernel client issues several concurrent
> > > > > calls to OP-TEE over that session, it will indeed consume more
> > > > > reserved system threads than what is actually reserved. Here I think
> > > > > it is the responsibility of such client to open as many sessions as
> > > > > requests. This is what scmi/optee driver does (see patch v6 4/4). An
> > > > > alternative would be to have a ref count of sys_thread in session
> > > > > contexts rather than a boolean value. I don't think it's worth it.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, I missed that during the review. The invocations with system
> > > > threads should be limited by res_sys_thread_count in a similar manner
> > > > as we do with normal threads via free_normal_thread_count. Otherwise,
> > > > it's unfair for normal thread scheduling.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose there isn't any interdependency among SCMI channels itself
> > > > such that a particular SCMI invocation can wait until the other SCMI
> > > > invocation has completed.
> > >
> > > I think that would over complexify the logic.
> > >
> >
> > We shouldn't allow system thread invocations to be greater than what
> > is actually reserved count for system threads. One thing I am not able
> > to understand here is why do you need a lot of system threads? Are
> > SCMI operations too expensive? I suppose those should just involve
> > configuring some register bits and using a single OP-TEE thread which
> > is invoked sequentially should be enough.
>
> Ok, I get your point.
> I think you're right, reserving at most 1 TEE thread for system
> sessions should be enough to prevent TEE entry calls deadlocks which
> is the purpose of these changee.
>
> Would you be ok if the following logic: optee driver would reserve at
> most 1 TEE call entry for system sessions.
> If at least 1 kernel client claims a system session, a TEE call entry
> is reserved to that purpose.
> Once all system sessions are closed, the TEE reserved system call
> entry is released.
> When a system thread calls the TEE, if the TEE system thread context
> is not already in use, then that client consumes the reserved entry.
> If the system thread context is already in use, then that client call
> is treated as a regular call: it calls the TEE and would return
> waiting for a free thread if no TEE thread context is available.

Yeah this sounds reasonable to me.

-Sumit

>
> Etienne
>
>
> >
> > -Sumit
> >
> > > Note I will send a patch v8 series but feel free to continue the discussion.
> > > It will at least address other comments you shared.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Etienne
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Sumit
Etienne Carriere May 16, 2023, 7:49 a.m. UTC | #4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These changes do not define an overall single system thread.
> > > > > > If several sessions requests reservation of TEE system thread, has
> > > > > > many will be reserved.
> > > > > > Only the very sessions with its sys_thread attribute set will use a
> > > > > > reserved thread. If such a kernel client issues several concurrent
> > > > > > calls to OP-TEE over that session, it will indeed consume more
> > > > > > reserved system threads than what is actually reserved. Here I think
> > > > > > it is the responsibility of such client to open as many sessions as
> > > > > > requests. This is what scmi/optee driver does (see patch v6 4/4). An
> > > > > > alternative would be to have a ref count of sys_thread in session
> > > > > > contexts rather than a boolean value. I don't think it's worth it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, I missed that during the review. The invocations with system
> > > > > threads should be limited by res_sys_thread_count in a similar manner
> > > > > as we do with normal threads via free_normal_thread_count. Otherwise,
> > > > > it's unfair for normal thread scheduling.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose there isn't any interdependency among SCMI channels itself
> > > > > such that a particular SCMI invocation can wait until the other SCMI
> > > > > invocation has completed.
> > > >
> > > > I think that would over complexify the logic.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We shouldn't allow system thread invocations to be greater than what
> > > is actually reserved count for system threads. One thing I am not able
> > > to understand here is why do you need a lot of system threads? Are
> > > SCMI operations too expensive? I suppose those should just involve
> > > configuring some register bits and using a single OP-TEE thread which
> > > is invoked sequentially should be enough.
> >
> > Ok, I get your point.
> > I think you're right, reserving at most 1 TEE thread for system
> > sessions should be enough to prevent TEE entry calls deadlocks which
> > is the purpose of these changee.
> >
> > Would you be ok if the following logic: optee driver would reserve at
> > most 1 TEE call entry for system sessions.
> > If at least 1 kernel client claims a system session, a TEE call entry
> > is reserved to that purpose.
> > Once all system sessions are closed, the TEE reserved system call
> > entry is released.
> > When a system thread calls the TEE, if the TEE system thread context
> > is not already in use, then that client consumes the reserved entry.
> > If the system thread context is already in use, then that client call
> > is treated as a regular call: it calls the TEE and would return
> > waiting for a free thread if no TEE thread context is available.
>
> Yeah this sounds reasonable to me.
>

Ok, i'll address that in patch v8.

Thanks.
Etienne

> -Sumit
>
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Sumit
> > >
> > > > Note I will send a patch v8 series but feel free to continue the discussion.
> > > > It will at least address other comments you shared.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Etienne
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Sumit

On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 08:32, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 May 2023 at 11:28, Etienne Carriere
> <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Sumit,
> >
> > On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 10:48, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 10:27, Etienne Carriere
> > > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:31, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 13:49, Etienne Carriere
> > > > > <etienne.carriere@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 09:27, Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
> > > > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > > > +       bool rc = false;
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +       mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > IMO, this might be counter productive. As most kernel drivers open a
> > > > > > > > > > session during driver probe which are only released in the driver
> > > > > > > > > > release method.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is always the case?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This answer of mine is irrelevant. Sorry,
> > > > > > > > Please read only the below comments of mine, especially:
> > > > > > > > | Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > > > | bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If the kernel driver is built-in then the session is
> > > > > > > > > > never released. Now with system threads we would reserve an OP-TEE
> > > > > > > > > > thread for that kernel driver as well which will never be available to
> > > > > > > > > > regular user-space clients.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That is not true. No driver currently requests their TEE thread to be
> > > > > > > > > a system thread.
> > > > > > > > > Only SCMI does because it needs to by construction.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes that's true but what prevents future/current kernel TEE drivers
> > > > > > > from requesting a system thread once we have this patch-set landed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only clients really needing this system_thread attribute should request it.
> > > > > > If they really need, the OP-TEE firmware in secure world should
> > > > > > provision sufficient thread context.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do we quantify it? We definitely need a policy here regarding
> > > > > normal vs system threads.
> > > > >
> > > > > One argument in favor of kernel clients requiring system threads could
> > > > > be that we don't want to compete with user-space for OP-TEE threads.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I don't understand. What do you mean qualifying this?
> > >
> > > I mean we have to fairly allocate threads among system and non-system
> > > thread invocations.
> > >
> > > > In an ideal situation, we would have OP-TEE provisioned with largely
> > > > sufficient thread contexts. However there are systems with constraints
> > > > memory resource that do lower at most the number of OP-TEE thread
> > > > contexts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, I think we are on the same page here.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So I would rather suggest we only allow a
> > > > > > > > > > single system thread to be reserved as a starting point which is
> > > > > > > > > > relevant to this critical SCMI service. We can also make this upper
> > > > > > > > > > bound for system threads configurable with default value as 1 if
> > > > > > > > > > needed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Note that SCMI server can expose several SCMI channels (at most 1 per
> > > > > > > > SCMI protocol used) and each of them will need to request a
> > > > > > > > system_thread to TEE driver.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Etienne
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Reserving one or more system threads depends on the number of thread
> > > > > > > > > context provisioned by the TEE.
> > > > > > > > > Note that the implementation proposed here prevents Linux kernel from
> > > > > > > > > exhausting TEE threads so user space always has at least a TEE thread
> > > > > > > > > context left available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah but on the other hand user-space clients which are comparatively
> > > > > > > larger in number than kernel clients. So they will be starved for
> > > > > > > OP-TEE thread availability. Consider a user-space client which needs
> > > > > > > to serve a lot of TLS connections just waiting for OP-TEE thread
> > > > > > > availability.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that OP-TEE default configuration provisions (number of CPUs + 1)
> > > > > > thread context, so the situation is already present before these
> > > > > > changes on systems that embedded an OP-TEE without a properly tuned
> > > > > > configuration. As I said above, Linux kernel cannot be responsible for
> > > > > > the total number of thread contexts provisioned in OP-TEE. If the
> > > > > > overall system requires a lot of TEE thread contexts, one should embed
> > > > > > a suitable OP-TEE firmware.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't the SCMI deadlock problem be solved with just having a lot of
> > > > > OP-TEE threads? But we are discussing the system threads solution here
> > > > > to make efficient use of OP-TEE threads. The total number of OP-TEE
> > > > > threads is definitely in control of OP-TEE but the control of how to
> > > > > schedule and efficiently use them lies with the Linux OP-TEE driver.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, given our overall discussion in this thread, how about the upper
> > > > > bound for system threads being 50% of the total number of OP-TEE
> > > > > threads?
> > > >
> > > > What would be a shame if the system does not use any Linux kernel
> > > > client sessions, only userland clients. This information cannot be
> > > > knwon be the linux optee driver.
> > > > Instead of leaving at least 1 TEE thread context for regular session,
> > > > what if this change enforce 2? or 3? Which count?
> > > > I think 1 is a fair choice: it allows to support OP-TEE firmwares with
> > > > a very small thread context pool (when running in small secure
> > > > memory), embedding only 2 or 3 contextes.
> > >
> > > IMO, leaving only 1 thread for user-space will starve TLS based
> > > applications. How about the following change on top of this patchset?
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > > index 8b8181099da7..1deb5907d075 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
> > > @@ -182,8 +182,8 @@ bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct
> > > optee_call_queue *cq)
> > >
> > >         mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
> > >
> > > -       /* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
> > > -       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count + 1 < cq->total_thread_count) {
> > > +       /* Leave at least 50% for normal (non-system) threads */
> > > +       if (cq->res_sys_thread_count < cq->total_thread_count/2) {
> > >                 cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
> > >                 cq->res_sys_thread_count++;
> > >                 rc = true;
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note that an OP-TEE thread is not bound to a TEE session but rather
> > > > > > > > > bound to a yielded call to OP-TEE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tee_client_open_session()
> > > > > > >   -> optee_open_session()
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tee_client_system_session()
> > > > > > >   -> optee_system_session()
> > > > > > >     -> optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count()       <- At this point you
> > > > > > > reserve a system thread corresponding to a particular kernel client
> > > > > > > session
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All tee_client_invoke_func() invocations with a system thread capable
> > > > > > > session will use that reserved thread.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tee_client_close_session()
> > > > > > >   -> optee_close_session()
> > > > > > >     -> optee_close_session_helper()
> > > > > > >       -> optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count()    <- At this point the
> > > > > > > reserved system thread is released
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Haven't this tied the system thread to a particular TEE session? Or am
> > > > > > > I missing something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These changes do not define an overall single system thread.
> > > > > > If several sessions requests reservation of TEE system thread, has
> > > > > > many will be reserved.
> > > > > > Only the very sessions with its sys_thread attribute set will use a
> > > > > > reserved thread. If such a kernel client issues several concurrent
> > > > > > calls to OP-TEE over that session, it will indeed consume more
> > > > > > reserved system threads than what is actually reserved. Here I think
> > > > > > it is the responsibility of such client to open as many sessions as
> > > > > > requests. This is what scmi/optee driver does (see patch v6 4/4). An
> > > > > > alternative would be to have a ref count of sys_thread in session
> > > > > > contexts rather than a boolean value. I don't think it's worth it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, I missed that during the review. The invocations with system
> > > > > threads should be limited by res_sys_thread_count in a similar manner
> > > > > as we do with normal threads via free_normal_thread_count. Otherwise,
> > > > > it's unfair for normal thread scheduling.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose there isn't any interdependency among SCMI channels itself
> > > > > such that a particular SCMI invocation can wait until the other SCMI
> > > > > invocation has completed.
> > > >
> > > > I think that would over complexify the logic.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We shouldn't allow system thread invocations to be greater than what
> > > is actually reserved count for system threads. One thing I am not able
> > > to understand here is why do you need a lot of system threads? Are
> > > SCMI operations too expensive? I suppose those should just involve
> > > configuring some register bits and using a single OP-TEE thread which
> > > is invoked sequentially should be enough.
> >
> > Ok, I get your point.
> > I think you're right, reserving at most 1 TEE thread for system
> > sessions should be enough to prevent TEE entry calls deadlocks which
> > is the purpose of these changee.
> >
> > Would you be ok if the following logic: optee driver would reserve at
> > most 1 TEE call entry for system sessions.
> > If at least 1 kernel client claims a system session, a TEE call entry
> > is reserved to that purpose.
> > Once all system sessions are closed, the TEE reserved system call
> > entry is released.
> > When a system thread calls the TEE, if the TEE system thread context
> > is not already in use, then that client consumes the reserved entry.
> > If the system thread context is already in use, then that client call
> > is treated as a regular call: it calls the TEE and would return
> > waiting for a free thread if no TEE thread context is available.
>
> Yeah this sounds reasonable to me.
>
> -Sumit
>
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Sumit
> > >
> > > > Note I will send a patch v8 series but feel free to continue the discussion.
> > > > It will at least address other comments you shared.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Etienne
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Sumit
diff mbox series

Patch

diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
index dba5339b61ae..c2d484201f79 100644
--- a/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
+++ b/drivers/tee/optee/call.c
@@ -39,9 +39,26 @@  struct optee_shm_arg_entry {
 	DECLARE_BITMAP(map, MAX_ARG_COUNT_PER_ENTRY);
 };
 
+void optee_cq_init(struct optee_call_queue *cq, int thread_count)
+{
+	mutex_init(&cq->mutex);
+	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&cq->normal_waiters);
+	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&cq->sys_waiters);
+	/*
+	 * If cq->total_thread_count is 0 then we're not trying to keep
+	 * track of how many free threads we have, instead we're relying on
+	 * the secure world to tell us when we're out of thread and have to
+	 * wait for another thread to become available.
+	 */
+	cq->total_thread_count = thread_count;
+	cq->free_normal_thread_count = thread_count;
+}
+
 void optee_cq_wait_init(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
-			struct optee_call_waiter *w)
+			struct optee_call_waiter *w, bool sys_thread)
 {
+	bool need_wait = false;
+
 	/*
 	 * We're preparing to make a call to secure world. In case we can't
 	 * allocate a thread in secure world we'll end up waiting in
@@ -53,15 +70,40 @@  void optee_cq_wait_init(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
 	mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
 
 	/*
-	 * We add ourselves to the queue, but we don't wait. This
-	 * guarantees that we don't lose a completion if secure world
-	 * returns busy and another thread just exited and try to complete
-	 * someone.
+	 * We add ourselves to a queue, but we don't wait. This guarantees
+	 * that we don't lose a completion if secure world returns busy and
+	 * another thread just exited and try to complete someone.
 	 */
 	init_completion(&w->c);
-	list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->waiters);
+	w->sys_thread = sys_thread;
+	if (sys_thread) {
+		list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->sys_waiters);
+	} else {
+		list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->normal_waiters);
+		if (cq->total_thread_count) {
+			/*
+			 * Claim a normal thread if one is available, else
+			 * we'll need to wait for a normal thread to be
+			 * released.
+			 */
+			if (cq->free_normal_thread_count > 0)
+				cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
+			else
+				need_wait = true;
+		}
+	}
 
 	mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
+
+	while (need_wait) {
+		optee_cq_wait_for_completion(cq, w);
+		mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
+		if (cq->free_normal_thread_count > 0) {
+			cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
+			need_wait = false;
+		}
+		mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
+	}
 }
 
 void optee_cq_wait_for_completion(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
@@ -74,7 +116,10 @@  void optee_cq_wait_for_completion(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
 	/* Move to end of list to get out of the way for other waiters */
 	list_del(&w->list_node);
 	reinit_completion(&w->c);
-	list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->waiters);
+	if (w->sys_thread)
+		list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->sys_waiters);
+	else
+		list_add_tail(&w->list_node, &cq->normal_waiters);
 
 	mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
 }
@@ -83,10 +128,19 @@  static void optee_cq_complete_one(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
 {
 	struct optee_call_waiter *w;
 
-	list_for_each_entry(w, &cq->waiters, list_node) {
+	list_for_each_entry(w, &cq->sys_waiters, list_node) {
 		if (!completion_done(&w->c)) {
 			complete(&w->c);
-			break;
+			return;
+		}
+	}
+
+	if (!cq->total_thread_count || cq->free_normal_thread_count > 0) {
+		list_for_each_entry(w, &cq->normal_waiters, list_node) {
+			if (!completion_done(&w->c)) {
+				complete(&w->c);
+				break;
+			}
 		}
 	}
 }
@@ -104,6 +158,9 @@  void optee_cq_wait_final(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
 	/* Get out of the list */
 	list_del(&w->list_node);
 
+	if (!w->sys_thread)
+		cq->free_normal_thread_count++; /* Release a normal thread */
+
 	/* Wake up one eventual waiting task */
 	optee_cq_complete_one(cq);
 
@@ -119,6 +176,36 @@  void optee_cq_wait_final(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
 	mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
 }
 
+bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
+{
+	bool rc = false;
+
+	mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
+
+	/* Leave at least 1 normal (non-system) thread */
+	if (cq->res_sys_thread_count + 1 < cq->total_thread_count) {
+		cq->free_normal_thread_count--;
+		cq->res_sys_thread_count++;
+		rc = true;
+	}
+
+	mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
+
+	return rc;
+}
+
+void optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq)
+{
+	mutex_lock(&cq->mutex);
+	if (cq->res_sys_thread_count > 0) {
+		cq->res_sys_thread_count--;
+		cq->free_normal_thread_count++;
+		/* If there's someone waiting, let it resume */
+		optee_cq_complete_one(cq);
+	}
+	mutex_unlock(&cq->mutex);
+}
+
 /* Requires the filpstate mutex to be held */
 static struct optee_session *find_session(struct optee_context_data *ctxdata,
 					  u32 session_id)
@@ -361,6 +448,27 @@  int optee_open_session(struct tee_context *ctx,
 	return rc;
 }
 
+int optee_system_session(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session)
+{
+	struct optee_context_data *ctxdata = ctx->data;
+	struct optee *optee = tee_get_drvdata(ctx->teedev);
+	struct optee_session *sess;
+	int rc = -EINVAL;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ctxdata->mutex);
+
+	sess = find_session(ctxdata, session);
+	if (sess && !sess->use_sys_thread &&
+	    optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(&optee->call_queue)) {
+		rc = 0;
+		sess->use_sys_thread = true;
+	}
+
+	mutex_unlock(&ctxdata->mutex);
+
+	return rc;
+}
+
 int optee_close_session_helper(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session,
 			       bool system_thread)
 {
@@ -378,6 +486,8 @@  int optee_close_session_helper(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session,
 	msg_arg->session = session;
 	optee->ops->do_call_with_arg(ctx, shm, offs, system_thread);
 
+	if (system_thread)
+		optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count(&optee->call_queue);
 	optee_free_msg_arg(ctx, entry, offs);
 
 	return 0;
diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/ffa_abi.c b/drivers/tee/optee/ffa_abi.c
index 52cec9d06041..0c9055691343 100644
--- a/drivers/tee/optee/ffa_abi.c
+++ b/drivers/tee/optee/ffa_abi.c
@@ -528,7 +528,8 @@  static void optee_handle_ffa_rpc(struct tee_context *ctx, struct optee *optee,
 
 static int optee_ffa_yielding_call(struct tee_context *ctx,
 				   struct ffa_send_direct_data *data,
-				   struct optee_msg_arg *rpc_arg)
+				   struct optee_msg_arg *rpc_arg,
+				   bool system_thread)
 {
 	struct optee *optee = tee_get_drvdata(ctx->teedev);
 	struct ffa_device *ffa_dev = optee->ffa.ffa_dev;
@@ -541,7 +542,7 @@  static int optee_ffa_yielding_call(struct tee_context *ctx,
 	int rc;
 
 	/* Initialize waiter */
-	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w);
+	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w, system_thread);
 	while (true) {
 		rc = msg_ops->sync_send_receive(ffa_dev, data);
 		if (rc)
@@ -643,7 +644,7 @@  static int optee_ffa_do_call_with_arg(struct tee_context *ctx,
 	if (IS_ERR(rpc_arg))
 		return PTR_ERR(rpc_arg);
 
-	return optee_ffa_yielding_call(ctx, &data, rpc_arg);
+	return optee_ffa_yielding_call(ctx, &data, rpc_arg, system_thread);
 }
 
 /*
@@ -851,8 +852,7 @@  static int optee_ffa_probe(struct ffa_device *ffa_dev)
 	if (rc)
 		goto err_unreg_supp_teedev;
 	mutex_init(&optee->ffa.mutex);
-	mutex_init(&optee->call_queue.mutex);
-	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&optee->call_queue.waiters);
+	optee_cq_init(&optee->call_queue, 0);
 	optee_supp_init(&optee->supp);
 	optee_shm_arg_cache_init(optee, arg_cache_flags);
 	ffa_dev_set_drvdata(ffa_dev, optee);
diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/optee_private.h b/drivers/tee/optee/optee_private.h
index 3da7960ab34a..6e0863a70843 100644
--- a/drivers/tee/optee/optee_private.h
+++ b/drivers/tee/optee/optee_private.h
@@ -43,12 +43,17 @@  typedef void (optee_invoke_fn)(unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long,
 struct optee_call_waiter {
 	struct list_head list_node;
 	struct completion c;
+	bool sys_thread;
 };
 
 struct optee_call_queue {
 	/* Serializes access to this struct */
 	struct mutex mutex;
-	struct list_head waiters;
+	struct list_head normal_waiters;
+	struct list_head sys_waiters;
+	int total_thread_count;
+	int free_normal_thread_count;
+	int res_sys_thread_count;
 };
 
 struct optee_notif {
@@ -254,6 +259,7 @@  int optee_supp_send(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 ret, u32 num_params,
 int optee_open_session(struct tee_context *ctx,
 		       struct tee_ioctl_open_session_arg *arg,
 		       struct tee_param *param);
+int optee_system_session(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session);
 int optee_close_session_helper(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session,
 			       bool system_thread);
 int optee_close_session(struct tee_context *ctx, u32 session);
@@ -303,8 +309,11 @@  static inline void optee_to_msg_param_value(struct optee_msg_param *mp,
 	mp->u.value.c = p->u.value.c;
 }
 
+void optee_cq_init(struct optee_call_queue *cq, int thread_count);
+bool optee_cq_inc_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq);
+void optee_cq_dec_sys_thread_count(struct optee_call_queue *cq);
 void optee_cq_wait_init(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
-			struct optee_call_waiter *w);
+			struct optee_call_waiter *w, bool sys_thread);
 void optee_cq_wait_for_completion(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
 				  struct optee_call_waiter *w);
 void optee_cq_wait_final(struct optee_call_queue *cq,
diff --git a/drivers/tee/optee/smc_abi.c b/drivers/tee/optee/smc_abi.c
index 56ebbb96ac97..2819674fd555 100644
--- a/drivers/tee/optee/smc_abi.c
+++ b/drivers/tee/optee/smc_abi.c
@@ -281,9 +281,10 @@  static int optee_to_msg_param(struct optee *optee,
 static void optee_enable_shm_cache(struct optee *optee)
 {
 	struct optee_call_waiter w;
+	bool system_thread = false;
 
 	/* We need to retry until secure world isn't busy. */
-	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w);
+	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w, system_thread);
 	while (true) {
 		struct arm_smccc_res res;
 
@@ -306,9 +307,10 @@  static void optee_enable_shm_cache(struct optee *optee)
 static void __optee_disable_shm_cache(struct optee *optee, bool is_mapped)
 {
 	struct optee_call_waiter w;
+	bool system_thread = false;
 
 	/* We need to retry until secure world isn't busy. */
-	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w);
+	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w, system_thread);
 	while (true) {
 		union {
 			struct arm_smccc_res smccc;
@@ -927,7 +929,7 @@  static int optee_smc_do_call_with_arg(struct tee_context *ctx,
 		reg_pair_from_64(&param.a1, &param.a2, parg);
 	}
 	/* Initialize waiter */
-	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w);
+	optee_cq_wait_init(&optee->call_queue, &w, system_thread);
 	while (true) {
 		struct arm_smccc_res res;
 
@@ -1209,6 +1211,7 @@  static const struct tee_driver_ops optee_clnt_ops = {
 	.release = optee_release,
 	.open_session = optee_open_session,
 	.close_session = optee_close_session,
+	.system_session = optee_system_session,
 	.invoke_func = optee_invoke_func,
 	.cancel_req = optee_cancel_req,
 	.shm_register = optee_shm_register,
@@ -1356,6 +1359,16 @@  static bool optee_msg_exchange_capabilities(optee_invoke_fn *invoke_fn,
 	return true;
 }
 
+static unsigned int optee_msg_get_thread_count(optee_invoke_fn *invoke_fn)
+{
+	struct arm_smccc_res res;
+
+	invoke_fn(OPTEE_SMC_GET_THREAD_COUNT, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &res);
+	if (res.a0)
+		return 0;
+	return res.a1;
+}
+
 static struct tee_shm_pool *
 optee_config_shm_memremap(optee_invoke_fn *invoke_fn, void **memremaped_shm)
 {
@@ -1609,6 +1622,7 @@  static int optee_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 	struct optee *optee = NULL;
 	void *memremaped_shm = NULL;
 	unsigned int rpc_param_count;
+	unsigned int thread_count;
 	struct tee_device *teedev;
 	struct tee_context *ctx;
 	u32 max_notif_value;
@@ -1636,6 +1650,7 @@  static int optee_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 		return -EINVAL;
 	}
 
+	thread_count = optee_msg_get_thread_count(invoke_fn);
 	if (!optee_msg_exchange_capabilities(invoke_fn, &sec_caps,
 					     &max_notif_value,
 					     &rpc_param_count)) {
@@ -1725,8 +1740,7 @@  static int optee_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 	if (rc)
 		goto err_unreg_supp_teedev;
 
-	mutex_init(&optee->call_queue.mutex);
-	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&optee->call_queue.waiters);
+	optee_cq_init(&optee->call_queue, thread_count);
 	optee_supp_init(&optee->supp);
 	optee->smc.memremaped_shm = memremaped_shm;
 	optee->pool = pool;