Message ID | pull.1533.git.git.1687394795009.gitgitgadget@gmail.com (mailing list archive) |
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State | New, archived |
Headers | show |
Series | docs: add git-hash-object -t option's possible values | expand |
On 2023-06-22 at 00:46:34, John Cai via GitGitGadget wrote: > From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> > > For newer users of Git, the possible values of -t in git-hash-object may > not be apparent. In fact the current verbiage under NAME could > lead one to conclude that git-hash-object(1) can only be used to create > blobs. > > Update the verbiage to make it clear the command can be used to write > objects, not just blobs. Also add the possible values for -t. Sure, I think this is a good change. I'm of the opinion we should tell people explicitly what the valid values are whenever there are a reasonable number.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:46:34AM +0000, John Cai via GitGitGadget wrote: > From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> > > For newer users of Git, the possible values of -t in git-hash-object may > not be apparent. In fact the current verbiage under NAME could > lead one to conclude that git-hash-object(1) can only be used to create > blobs. In the above, these days we would say "git hash-object" instead of "git-hash-object" (but "git-hash-object(1)" is correct to refer to the manual page). Not worth a reroll on its own, of course, but something to keep in mind for the future. Otherwise, this patch looks good to me. Thanks, Taylor
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes: > On 2023-06-22 at 00:46:34, John Cai via GitGitGadget wrote: >> From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> >> >> For newer users of Git, the possible values of -t in git-hash-object may >> not be apparent. In fact the current verbiage under NAME could >> lead one to conclude that git-hash-object(1) can only be used to create >> blobs. >> >> Update the verbiage to make it clear the command can be used to write >> objects, not just blobs. Also add the possible values for -t. > > Sure, I think this is a good change. I'm of the opinion we should tell > people explicitly what the valid values are whenever there are a > reasonable number. Strictly speaking, the valid values become unbounded under --literally, but it is just for those who build and experiment with Git, not for end-users or toolsmiths, so I am OK with listing the four object types here. Thanks.
Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:46:34AM +0000, John Cai via GitGitGadget wrote: >> From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> >> >> For newer users of Git, the possible values of -t in git-hash-object may >> not be apparent. In fact the current verbiage under NAME could >> lead one to conclude that git-hash-object(1) can only be used to create >> blobs. While I do not oppose to the patch text that lists four object types explicitly, I am not sure if the above is a reasonable justification to do so. I think the phrase "default:" in front of explicit singling out of "blob" in the description is sufficient to hint that "blob" is merely one of the types it can create. Also why do we expect that newer users of Git would be playing with hash-object before even learning there are other three types (or only after reading the one-line summary without description)? It almost smells like asking for trouble. Verbiage refers to uses of too many words or excessively technical expressions. I do not think a single-line summary of the command qualifies for one. So, I like the patch text, but not the way it is sold with its proposed log message. Thanks.
Hi Junio, On 22 Jun 2023, at 19:13, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes: > >> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:46:34AM +0000, John Cai via GitGitGadget wrote: >>> From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> >>> >>> For newer users of Git, the possible values of -t in git-hash-object may >>> not be apparent. In fact the current verbiage under NAME could >>> lead one to conclude that git-hash-object(1) can only be used to create >>> blobs. > > While I do not oppose to the patch text that lists four object types > explicitly, I am not sure if the above is a reasonable justification > to do so. > > I think the phrase "default:" in front of explicit singling out of > "blob" in the description is sufficient to hint that "blob" is > merely one of the types it can create. I think the default does indicate that there are other types, but at least for myself it created a bit of uncertainty as to what other types the command accepted. Of course, a quick test on the command line is sufficient to confirm the support for commit, tree, and tag--but I still think the current verbiage leaves enough room for ambiguity, even for users of Git who are aware of all the object types. > Also why do we expect thatnewer users of Git would be playing with hash-object > before even learning there are other three types (or only after reading the > one-line summary without description)? It almost smells like asking for > trouble. I do agree with this reasoning. "newer users of Git" does not sound like the right phrase to use. > > Verbiage refers to uses of too many words or excessively technical > expressions. I do not think a single-line summary of the command > qualifies for one. > > So, I like the patch text, but not the way it is sold with its > proposed log message. Will re-roll with updated text. Also, based on Taylor's feedback of git-hash-object vs git hash-object. > > Thanks. thanks! John
diff --git a/Documentation/git-hash-object.txt b/Documentation/git-hash-object.txt index 472b5bb995b..404e339e170 100644 --- a/Documentation/git-hash-object.txt +++ b/Documentation/git-hash-object.txt @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ git-hash-object(1) NAME ---- -git-hash-object - Compute object ID and optionally creates a blob from a file +git-hash-object - Compute object ID and optionally creates an object from a file SYNOPSIS @@ -25,7 +25,8 @@ OPTIONS ------- -t <type>:: - Specify the type (default: "blob"). + Specify the type (default: "blob"). Possible values are `commit`, + `tree`, `blob`, and `tag`. -w:: Actually write the object into the object database.