| Message ID | 20190926072046.GB20653@sigill.intra.peff.net (mailing list archive) |
|---|---|
| State | New, archived |
| Headers | show |
| Series | CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails | expand |
On 9/26/2019 3:20 AM, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 04:52:56PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote: > >>>> I've cc'd git@sfconservancy.org here, because I think it's important for >>>> all of the project committee members to endorse it (and because the >>>> document puts us on the hook for enforcing it!). >>> >>> I tried looking it up but I couldn't find who the project committee >>> members are. Is this list published anywhere? More on that later... >> >> To be honest, I'm a little worried about it too. What if I have a >> problem with someone on the project committee? What if I have a >> problem with someone I don't know is on the project committee? > > I think those are very good points. See the patch below. > >> I helped my other FOSS project to adopt a Code of Conduct earlier in >> the year (https://github.com/openbmc/docs/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md) >> and we got around this by asking for volunteers from the technical >> steering committee to agree to have their contact info listed on the >> escalation path; at the end of the escalation path we also listed >> someone external to the project (which we were able to do because we >> had been adopted by the Linux Foundation, and they have someone for >> that). > > Yeah, I think this is sort of the same thing except that I > pre-volunteered the whole project committee. ;) > > We could have a separate list of contacts for the code of conduct, but > it seems simplest to just use the existing group that we already have, > unless there's a compelling reason not to. > >> A possible con of being on this escalation path is having your name >> and contact info outed to trolls as a supporter of something >> controversial like a code of conduct. However, I'd argue that the >> growing list of ACKs on this thread expose us in a similar way. On the >> other side, the benefit of having a transparent escalation path like >> this is that you can bypass a problematic individual who may be in a >> position of power. It also provides an opportunity for increased >> discretion in delicate situations like the example Peff gave >> downthread. > > Yep, agreed with all of this. > > So here's a patch that I think improves the situation. > > -- >8 -- > Subject: [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails > > It's possible that somebody on the project committee is the subject of a > complaint. In that case, it may be useful to be able to contact the > other members individually, so let's make it clear that's an option. > > This also serves to enumerate the set of people on the committee. That > lets you easily _know_ if you're in the situation mentioned above. And > it's just convenient to list who's involved in the process, since the > project committee list is not anywhere else in the repository. I think this handles the conflict of interest issues. This is likely never to be needed, but helpful to have. Thanks, -Stolee > > Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net> > --- > CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md | 8 ++++++++ > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > index b94f72b0b8..fc4645d5c0 100644 > --- a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > +++ b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md > @@ -74,6 +74,14 @@ Project maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good > faith may face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other > members of the project's leadership. > > +The project leadership team can be contacted by email as a whole at > +git@sfconservancy.org, or individually: > + > + - Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> > + - Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> > + - Jeff King <peff@peff.net> > + - Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> > + > ## Attribution > > This Code of Conduct is adapted from the [Contributor Covenant][homepage], >
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:20:46AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> So here's a patch that I think improves the situation.
Looks great to me and addresses my only concern with the original patch.
Hearty ACK.
- Emily
On 26/09/2019 08:20, Jeff King wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 04:52:56PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote: >> I helped my other FOSS project to adopt a Code of Conduct earlier in >> the year (https://github.com/openbmc/docs/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md) >> and we got around this by asking for volunteers from the technical >> steering committee to agree to have their contact info listed on the >> escalation path; at the end of the escalation path we also listed >> someone external to the project (which we were able to do because we >> had been adopted by the Linux Foundation, and they have someone for >> that). > > Yeah, I think this is sort of the same thing except that I > pre-volunteered the whole project committee. ;) > > We could have a separate list of contacts for the code of conduct, but > it seems simplest to just use the existing group that we already have, > unless there's a compelling reason not to. I, too, wondered if it might be more appropriate to have the list of names and email addresses separated from the repository and just linked from the CoC. Perhaps someone would need to expunge themselves from the list permanently, or perhaps we'd want to protect against a hypothetical person in a position of control changing the list to their trusted cronies. I cannot think of a realistic scenario or practical setup which would actually guarantee any such benefits and this solution is simple and practical. Overall for this proposed CoC patch: ACK CB
diff --git a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md index b94f72b0b8..fc4645d5c0 100644 --- a/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md +++ b/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md @@ -74,6 +74,14 @@ Project maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good faith may face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the project's leadership. +The project leadership team can be contacted by email as a whole at +git@sfconservancy.org, or individually: + + - Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> + - Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> + - Jeff King <peff@peff.net> + - Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> + ## Attribution This Code of Conduct is adapted from the [Contributor Covenant][homepage],