[v4,6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of snd_timer instead of jiffies
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Message ID 20191120115856.4125-7-andrew_gabbasov@mentor.com
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  • ALSA: aloop: Support sound timer as clock source instead of jiffies
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Andrew Gabbasov Nov. 20, 2019, 11:58 a.m. UTC
From: Timo Wischer <twischer@de.adit-jv.com>

to do synchronous audio forwarding between hardware sound card and aloop
devices. Such an audio route could look like the following:
Sound card -> Loopback application -> ALSA loop device -> arecord

In this case the loopback device should use the sound timer of the sound
card. Without this patch the loopback application has to implement an
adaptive sample rate converter to align the different clocks of the
different ALSA devices.

The used timer can be selected by referring to a sound card, its device
and subdevice, when loading the module:
  $ modprobe snd_aloop enable=1 timer_source=[<card>[.<dev>[.<subdev>]]]
<card> is the name (id) of the sound card or a card number.
<dev> and <subdev> are device and subdevice numbers (defaults are 0).
Empty string as a value of timer_source= parameter enables previous
functionality (using jiffies timer).

Signed-off-by: Timo Wischer <twischer@de.adit-jv.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Gabbasov <andrew_gabbasov@mentor.com>
---
 sound/drivers/aloop.c | 477 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 476 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

Comments

Andrew Gabbasov Nov. 20, 2019, 3:21 p.m. UTC | #1
Hello Takashi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:34 PM
> To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Jaroslav
> Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of snd_timer
> instead of jiffies
> 
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:58:55 +0100,
> Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> > +/* call in loopback->cable_lock */
> > +static int loopback_snd_timer_open(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
> > +{
> > +	int err = 0;
> > +	struct snd_timer_id tid = {
> > +		.dev_class = SNDRV_TIMER_CLASS_PCM,
> > +		.dev_sclass = SNDRV_TIMER_SCLASS_APPLICATION,
> > +	};
> > +	struct snd_timer_instance *timeri;
> > +	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
> > +
> > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > +
> > +	/* check if timer was already opened. It is only opened once
> > +	 * per playback and capture subdevice (aka cable).
> > +	 */
> > +	if (cable->snd_timer.instance)
> > +		goto unlock;
> > +
> > +	err = loopback_parse_timer_id(dpcm->loopback->timer_source, &tid);
> > +	if (err < 0) {
> > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > +			"Parsing timer source \'%s\' failed with %d",
> > +			dpcm->loopback->timer_source, err);
> > +		goto unlock;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	cable->snd_timer.stream = dpcm->substream->stream;
> > +	cable->snd_timer.id = tid;
> > +
> > +	timeri = snd_timer_instance_new(dpcm->loopback->card->id);
> > +	if (!timeri) {
> > +		err = -ENOMEM;
> > +		goto unlock;
> > +	}
> > +	/* The callback has to be called from another tasklet. If
> > +	 * SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_FAST is specified it will be called from the
> > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() call of the selected sound card.
> > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() helds snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > +	 * Due to our callback loopback_snd_timer_function() also calls
> > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() which calls
> snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > +	 * This would end up in a dead lock.
> > +	 */
> > +	timeri->flags |= SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_AUTO;
> > +	timeri->callback = loopback_snd_timer_function;
> > +	timeri->callback_data = (void *)cable;
> > +	timeri->ccallback = loopback_snd_timer_event;
> > +
> > +	/* snd_timer_close() and snd_timer_open() should not be called with
> > +	 * locked spinlock because both functions can block on a mutex. The
> > +	 * mutex loopback->cable_lock is kept locked. Therefore
> snd_timer_open()
> > +	 * cannot be called a second time by the other device of the same
> cable.
> > +	 * Therefore the following issue cannot happen:
> > +	 * [proc1] Call loopback_timer_open() ->
> > +	 *	   Unlock cable->lock for snd_timer_close/open() call
> > +	 * [proc2] Call loopback_timer_open() -> snd_timer_open(),
> > +	 *	   snd_timer_start()
> > +	 * [proc1] Call snd_timer_open() and overwrite running timer
> > +	 *	   instance
> > +	 */
> > +	spin_unlock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > +	err = snd_timer_open(timeri, &cable->snd_timer.id, current->pid);
> > +	if (err < 0) {
> > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > +			"snd_timer_open (%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
> > +			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
> > +			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
> > +			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
> > +			err);
> > +		snd_timer_instance_free(timeri);
> > +		return err;
> > +	}
> > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > +
> > +	cable->snd_timer.instance = timeri;
> > +
> > +	/* initialise a tasklet used for draining */
> > +	tasklet_init(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet,
> > +		     loopback_snd_timer_tasklet, (unsigned long)timeri);
> 
> This has to be set before snd_timer_open().  The callback might be
> called immediately after snd_timer_open().

This tasklet is used/scheduled only in ccallback (not regular tick
callback),
and only for SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP event. Can this event really happen
immediately after snd_timer_open()?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Andrew
Andrew Gabbasov Nov. 20, 2019, 3:39 p.m. UTC | #2
Hello Takashi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:32 PM
> To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Jaroslav
> Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of snd_timer
> instead of jiffies
> 
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:21:36 +0100,
> Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> >
> > Hello Takashi,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:34 PM
> > > To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> > > Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
Jaroslav
> > > Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of
snd_timer
> > > instead of jiffies
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:58:55 +0100,
> > > Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> > > > +/* call in loopback->cable_lock */
> > > > +static int loopback_snd_timer_open(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	int err = 0;
> > > > +	struct snd_timer_id tid = {
> > > > +		.dev_class = SNDRV_TIMER_CLASS_PCM,
> > > > +		.dev_sclass = SNDRV_TIMER_SCLASS_APPLICATION,
> > > > +	};
> > > > +	struct snd_timer_instance *timeri;
> > > > +	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
> > > > +
> > > > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > +
> > > > +	/* check if timer was already opened. It is only opened once
> > > > +	 * per playback and capture subdevice (aka cable).
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	if (cable->snd_timer.instance)
> > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > +
> > > > +	err = loopback_parse_timer_id(dpcm->loopback->timer_source,
> &tid);
> > > > +	if (err < 0) {
> > > > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > > > +			"Parsing timer source \'%s\' failed with
%d",
> > > > +			dpcm->loopback->timer_source, err);
> > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +
> > > > +	cable->snd_timer.stream = dpcm->substream->stream;
> > > > +	cable->snd_timer.id = tid;
> > > > +
> > > > +	timeri = snd_timer_instance_new(dpcm->loopback->card->id);
> > > > +	if (!timeri) {
> > > > +		err = -ENOMEM;
> > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +	/* The callback has to be called from another tasklet. If
> > > > +	 * SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_FAST is specified it will be called from
> the
> > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() call of the selected sound card.
> > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() helds
> snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > > > +	 * Due to our callback loopback_snd_timer_function() also
> calls
> > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() which calls
> > > snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > > > +	 * This would end up in a dead lock.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	timeri->flags |= SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_AUTO;
> > > > +	timeri->callback = loopback_snd_timer_function;
> > > > +	timeri->callback_data = (void *)cable;
> > > > +	timeri->ccallback = loopback_snd_timer_event;
> > > > +
> > > > +	/* snd_timer_close() and snd_timer_open() should not be
called
> with
> > > > +	 * locked spinlock because both functions can block on a
> mutex. The
> > > > +	 * mutex loopback->cable_lock is kept locked. Therefore
> > > snd_timer_open()
> > > > +	 * cannot be called a second time by the other device of the
> same
> > > cable.
> > > > +	 * Therefore the following issue cannot happen:
> > > > +	 * [proc1] Call loopback_timer_open() ->
> > > > +	 *	   Unlock cable->lock for snd_timer_close/open()
call
> > > > +	 * [proc2] Call loopback_timer_open() -> snd_timer_open(),
> > > > +	 *	   snd_timer_start()
> > > > +	 * [proc1] Call snd_timer_open() and overwrite running timer
> > > > +	 *	   instance
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	spin_unlock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > +	err = snd_timer_open(timeri, &cable->snd_timer.id, current-
> >pid);
> > > > +	if (err < 0) {
> > > > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > > > +			"snd_timer_open (%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
> > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
> > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
> > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
> > > > +			err);
> > > > +		snd_timer_instance_free(timeri);
> > > > +		return err;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > +
> > > > +	cable->snd_timer.instance = timeri;
> > > > +
> > > > +	/* initialise a tasklet used for draining */
> > > > +	tasklet_init(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet,
> > > > +		     loopback_snd_timer_tasklet, (unsigned
> long)timeri);
> > >
> > > This has to be set before snd_timer_open().  The callback might be
> > > called immediately after snd_timer_open().
> >
> > This tasklet is used/scheduled only in ccallback (not regular tick
> > callback),
> > and only for SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP event. Can this event really happen
> > immediately after snd_timer_open()?
> 
> Why not?  The master timer can be stopped at any time, even between
> these two lines.
> 
> Beware that there are fuzzer programs that can trigger such racy
> things, and you're adding the code to the target that is actively
> slapped by them :)

OK, got it.
I'll move this initialization to before snd_timer_open() in the next
update together with the fixes for the other issues you will find
in this version.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Andrew
Andrew Gabbasov Nov. 20, 2019, 5:56 p.m. UTC | #3
Hello Takashi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:59 PM
> To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Jaroslav
> Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of snd_timer
> instead of jiffies
> 
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:39:00 +0100,
> Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> >
> > Hello Takashi,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:32 PM
> > > To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> > > Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
Jaroslav
> > > Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of
snd_timer
> > > instead of jiffies
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:21:36 +0100,
> > > Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Takashi,
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@suse.de]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:34 PM
> > > > > To: Gabbasov, Andrew
> > > > > Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > Jaroslav
> > > > > Kysela; Takashi Iwai; Timo Wischer
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] ALSA: aloop: Support selection of
> > snd_timer
> > > > > instead of jiffies
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:58:55 +0100,
> > > > > Andrew Gabbasov wrote:
> > > > > > +/* call in loopback->cable_lock */
> > > > > > +static int loopback_snd_timer_open(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	int err = 0;
> > > > > > +	struct snd_timer_id tid = {
> > > > > > +		.dev_class = SNDRV_TIMER_CLASS_PCM,
> > > > > > +		.dev_sclass = SNDRV_TIMER_SCLASS_APPLICATION,
> > > > > > +	};
> > > > > > +	struct snd_timer_instance *timeri;
> > > > > > +	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* check if timer was already opened. It is only opened once
> > > > > > +	 * per playback and capture subdevice (aka cable).
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	if (cable->snd_timer.instance)
> > > > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	err = loopback_parse_timer_id(dpcm->loopback->timer_source,
> > > &tid);
> > > > > > +	if (err < 0) {
> > > > > > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > > > > > +			"Parsing timer source \'%s\' failed with
> > %d",
> > > > > > +			dpcm->loopback->timer_source, err);
> > > > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	cable->snd_timer.stream = dpcm->substream->stream;
> > > > > > +	cable->snd_timer.id = tid;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	timeri = snd_timer_instance_new(dpcm->loopback->card->id);
> > > > > > +	if (!timeri) {
> > > > > > +		err = -ENOMEM;
> > > > > > +		goto unlock;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > +	/* The callback has to be called from another tasklet. If
> > > > > > +	 * SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_FAST is specified it will be called from
> > > the
> > > > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() call of the selected sound card.
> > > > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() helds
> > > snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > > > > > +	 * Due to our callback loopback_snd_timer_function() also
> > > calls
> > > > > > +	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() which calls
> > > > > snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
> > > > > > +	 * This would end up in a dead lock.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	timeri->flags |= SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_AUTO;
> > > > > > +	timeri->callback = loopback_snd_timer_function;
> > > > > > +	timeri->callback_data = (void *)cable;
> > > > > > +	timeri->ccallback = loopback_snd_timer_event;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* snd_timer_close() and snd_timer_open() should not be
> > called
> > > with
> > > > > > +	 * locked spinlock because both functions can block on a
> > > mutex. The
> > > > > > +	 * mutex loopback->cable_lock is kept locked. Therefore
> > > > > snd_timer_open()
> > > > > > +	 * cannot be called a second time by the other device of the
> > > same
> > > > > cable.
> > > > > > +	 * Therefore the following issue cannot happen:
> > > > > > +	 * [proc1] Call loopback_timer_open() ->
> > > > > > +	 *	   Unlock cable->lock for snd_timer_close/open()
> > call
> > > > > > +	 * [proc2] Call loopback_timer_open() -> snd_timer_open(),
> > > > > > +	 *	   snd_timer_start()
> > > > > > +	 * [proc1] Call snd_timer_open() and overwrite running timer
> > > > > > +	 *	   instance
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	spin_unlock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > > > +	err = snd_timer_open(timeri, &cable->snd_timer.id, current-
> > > >pid);
> > > > > > +	if (err < 0) {
> > > > > > +		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
> > > > > > +			"snd_timer_open (%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
> > > > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
> > > > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
> > > > > > +			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
> > > > > > +			err);
> > > > > > +		snd_timer_instance_free(timeri);
> > > > > > +		return err;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > +	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	cable->snd_timer.instance = timeri;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* initialise a tasklet used for draining */
> > > > > > +	tasklet_init(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet,
> > > > > > +		     loopback_snd_timer_tasklet, (unsigned
> > > long)timeri);
> > > > >
> > > > > This has to be set before snd_timer_open().  The callback might be
> > > > > called immediately after snd_timer_open().
> > > >
> > > > This tasklet is used/scheduled only in ccallback (not regular tick
> > > > callback),
> > > > and only for SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP event. Can this event really
> happen
> > > > immediately after snd_timer_open()?
> > >
> > > Why not?  The master timer can be stopped at any time, even between
> > > these two lines.
> > >
> > > Beware that there are fuzzer programs that can trigger such racy
> > > things, and you're adding the code to the target that is actively
> > > slapped by them :)
> >
> > OK, got it.
> > I'll move this initialization to before snd_timer_open() in the next
> > update together with the fixes for the other issues you will find
> > in this version.
> 
> I have no other issues, so you can just resubmit only that patch,
> too.

I'm not sure how to correctly format resubmitting of a single patch from
a patch set, so I'm submitting the next version v5 of the whole patch set:
https://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2019-November/158939.h
tml

Thanks!

Best regards,
Andrew

Patch
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diff --git a/sound/drivers/aloop.c b/sound/drivers/aloop.c
index 0eacaa9d7862..67ebbd510e1b 100644
--- a/sound/drivers/aloop.c
+++ b/sound/drivers/aloop.c
@@ -28,6 +28,7 @@ 
 #include <sound/pcm_params.h>
 #include <sound/info.h>
 #include <sound/initval.h>
+#include <sound/timer.h>
 
 MODULE_AUTHOR("Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>");
 MODULE_DESCRIPTION("A loopback soundcard");
@@ -41,6 +42,7 @@  static char *id[SNDRV_CARDS] = SNDRV_DEFAULT_STR;	/* ID for this card */
 static bool enable[SNDRV_CARDS] = {1, [1 ... (SNDRV_CARDS - 1)] = 0};
 static int pcm_substreams[SNDRV_CARDS] = {[0 ... (SNDRV_CARDS - 1)] = 8};
 static int pcm_notify[SNDRV_CARDS];
+static char *timer_source[SNDRV_CARDS];
 
 module_param_array(index, int, NULL, 0444);
 MODULE_PARM_DESC(index, "Index value for loopback soundcard.");
@@ -52,6 +54,8 @@  module_param_array(pcm_substreams, int, NULL, 0444);
 MODULE_PARM_DESC(pcm_substreams, "PCM substreams # (1-8) for loopback driver.");
 module_param_array(pcm_notify, int, NULL, 0444);
 MODULE_PARM_DESC(pcm_notify, "Break capture when PCM format/rate/channels changes.");
+module_param_array(timer_source, charp, NULL, 0444);
+MODULE_PARM_DESC(timer_source, "Sound card name or number and device/subdevice number of timer to be used. Empty string for jiffies timer [default].");
 
 #define NO_PITCH 100000
 
@@ -102,6 +106,13 @@  struct loopback_cable {
 	unsigned int pause;
 	/* timer specific */
 	struct loopback_ops *ops;
+	/* If sound timer is used */
+	struct {
+		int stream;
+		struct snd_timer_id id;
+		struct tasklet_struct event_tasklet;
+		struct snd_timer_instance *instance;
+	} snd_timer;
 };
 
 struct loopback_setup {
@@ -122,6 +133,7 @@  struct loopback {
 	struct loopback_cable *cables[MAX_PCM_SUBSTREAMS][2];
 	struct snd_pcm *pcm[2];
 	struct loopback_setup setup[MAX_PCM_SUBSTREAMS][2];
+	const char *timer_source;
 };
 
 struct loopback_pcm {
@@ -145,6 +157,7 @@  struct loopback_pcm {
 	unsigned int period_size_frac;	/* period size in jiffies ticks */
 	unsigned int last_drift;
 	unsigned long last_jiffies;
+	/* If jiffies timer is used */
 	struct timer_list timer;
 };
 
@@ -212,6 +225,35 @@  static int loopback_jiffies_timer_start(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
 	return 0;
 }
 
+/* call in cable->lock */
+static int loopback_snd_timer_start(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
+{
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+	int err;
+
+	/* Loopback device has to use same period as timer card. Therefore
+	 * wake up for each snd_pcm_period_elapsed() call of timer card.
+	 */
+	err = snd_timer_start(cable->snd_timer.instance, 1);
+	if (err < 0) {
+		/* do not report error if trying to start but already
+		 * running. For example called by opposite substream
+		 * of the same cable
+		 */
+		if (err == -EBUSY)
+			return 0;
+
+		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
+			"snd_timer_start(%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
+			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
+			err);
+	}
+
+	return err;
+}
+
 /* call in cable->lock */
 static inline int loopback_jiffies_timer_stop(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
 {
@@ -221,6 +263,29 @@  static inline int loopback_jiffies_timer_stop(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
 	return 0;
 }
 
+/* call in cable->lock */
+static int loopback_snd_timer_stop(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
+{
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+	int err;
+
+	/* only stop if both devices (playback and capture) are not running */
+	if (cable->running ^ cable->pause)
+		return 0;
+
+	err = snd_timer_stop(cable->snd_timer.instance);
+	if (err < 0) {
+		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
+			"snd_timer_stop(%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
+			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
+			err);
+	}
+
+	return err;
+}
+
 static inline int loopback_jiffies_timer_stop_sync(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
 {
 	del_timer_sync(&dpcm->timer);
@@ -228,6 +293,30 @@  static inline int loopback_jiffies_timer_stop_sync(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
 	return 0;
 }
 
+/* call in loopback->cable_lock */
+static int loopback_snd_timer_close_cable(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
+{
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+
+	/* snd_timer was not opened */
+	if (!cable->snd_timer.instance)
+		return 0;
+
+	/* wait till drain tasklet has finished if requested */
+	tasklet_kill(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet);
+
+	/* will only be called from free_cable() when other stream was
+	 * already closed. Other stream cannot be reopened as long as
+	 * loopback->cable_lock is locked. Therefore no need to lock
+	 * cable->lock;
+	 */
+	snd_timer_close(cable->snd_timer.instance);
+	snd_timer_instance_free(cable->snd_timer.instance);
+	memset(&cable->snd_timer, 0, sizeof(cable->snd_timer));
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
 static int loopback_check_format(struct loopback_cable *cable, int stream)
 {
 	struct snd_pcm_runtime *runtime, *cruntime;
@@ -353,6 +442,13 @@  static void params_change(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 	cable->hw.rate_max = runtime->rate;
 	cable->hw.channels_min = runtime->channels;
 	cable->hw.channels_max = runtime->channels;
+
+	if (cable->snd_timer.instance) {
+		cable->hw.period_bytes_min =
+				frames_to_bytes(runtime, runtime->period_size);
+		cable->hw.period_bytes_max = cable->hw.period_bytes_min;
+	}
+
 }
 
 static int loopback_prepare(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
@@ -576,6 +672,167 @@  static void loopback_jiffies_timer_function(struct timer_list *t)
 	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&dpcm->cable->lock, flags);
 }
 
+/* call in cable->lock */
+static int loopback_snd_timer_check_resolution(struct snd_pcm_runtime *runtime,
+					       unsigned long resolution)
+{
+	if (resolution != runtime->timer_resolution) {
+		struct loopback_pcm *dpcm = runtime->private_data;
+		struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+		/* Worst case estimation of possible values for resolution
+		 * resolution <= (512 * 1024) frames / 8kHz in nsec
+		 * resolution <= 65.536.000.000 nsec
+		 *
+		 * period_size <= 65.536.000.000 nsec / 1000nsec/usec * 192kHz +
+		 *  500.000
+		 * period_size <= 12.582.912.000.000  <64bit
+		 *  / 1.000.000 usec/sec
+		 */
+		snd_pcm_uframes_t period_size_usec =
+				resolution / 1000 * runtime->rate;
+		/* round to nearest sample rate */
+		snd_pcm_uframes_t period_size =
+				(period_size_usec + 500 * 1000) / (1000 * 1000);
+
+		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
+			"Period size (%lu frames) of loopback device is not corresponding to timer resolution (%lu nsec = %lu frames) of card timer %d,%d,%d. Use period size of %lu frames for loopback device.",
+			runtime->period_size, resolution, period_size,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
+			period_size);
+		return -EINVAL;
+	}
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static void loopback_snd_timer_period_elapsed(struct loopback_cable *cable,
+					      int event,
+					      unsigned long resolution)
+{
+	struct loopback_pcm *dpcm_play, *dpcm_capt;
+	struct snd_pcm_substream *substream_play, *substream_capt;
+	struct snd_pcm_runtime *valid_runtime;
+	unsigned int running, elapsed_bytes;
+	unsigned long flags;
+
+	spin_lock_irqsave(&cable->lock, flags);
+	running = cable->running ^ cable->pause;
+	/* no need to do anything if no stream is running */
+	if (!running) {
+		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cable->lock, flags);
+		return;
+	}
+
+	dpcm_play = cable->streams[SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK];
+	dpcm_capt = cable->streams[SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE];
+	substream_play = (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)) ?
+			dpcm_play->substream : NULL;
+	substream_capt = (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE)) ?
+			dpcm_capt->substream : NULL;
+
+	if (event == SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP) {
+		if (!dpcm_play ||
+		    dpcm_play->substream->runtime->status->state !=
+				SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DRAINING) {
+			spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cable->lock, flags);
+			return;
+		}
+	}
+
+	valid_runtime = (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)) ?
+				dpcm_play->substream->runtime :
+				dpcm_capt->substream->runtime;
+
+	/* resolution is only valid for SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_TICK events */
+	if (event == SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_TICK) {
+		/* The hardware rules guarantee that playback and capture period
+		 * are the same. Therefore only one device has to be checked
+		 * here.
+		 */
+		if (loopback_snd_timer_check_resolution(valid_runtime,
+							resolution) < 0) {
+			spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cable->lock, flags);
+			if (substream_play)
+				snd_pcm_stop_xrun(substream_play);
+			if (substream_capt)
+				snd_pcm_stop_xrun(substream_capt);
+			return;
+		}
+	}
+
+	elapsed_bytes = frames_to_bytes(valid_runtime,
+					valid_runtime->period_size);
+	/* The same timer interrupt is used for playback and capture device */
+	if ((running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)) &&
+	    (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE))) {
+		copy_play_buf(dpcm_play, dpcm_capt, elapsed_bytes);
+		bytepos_finish(dpcm_play, elapsed_bytes);
+		bytepos_finish(dpcm_capt, elapsed_bytes);
+	} else if (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)) {
+		bytepos_finish(dpcm_play, elapsed_bytes);
+	} else if (running & (1 << SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE)) {
+		clear_capture_buf(dpcm_capt, elapsed_bytes);
+		bytepos_finish(dpcm_capt, elapsed_bytes);
+	}
+	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cable->lock, flags);
+
+	if (substream_play)
+		snd_pcm_period_elapsed(substream_play);
+	if (substream_capt)
+		snd_pcm_period_elapsed(substream_capt);
+}
+
+static void loopback_snd_timer_function(struct snd_timer_instance *timeri,
+					unsigned long resolution,
+					unsigned long ticks)
+{
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = timeri->callback_data;
+
+	loopback_snd_timer_period_elapsed(cable, SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_TICK,
+					  resolution);
+}
+
+static void loopback_snd_timer_tasklet(unsigned long arg)
+{
+	struct snd_timer_instance *timeri = (struct snd_timer_instance *)arg;
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = timeri->callback_data;
+
+	loopback_snd_timer_period_elapsed(cable, SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP, 0);
+}
+
+static void loopback_snd_timer_event(struct snd_timer_instance *timeri,
+				     int event,
+				     struct timespec *tstamp,
+				     unsigned long resolution)
+{
+	/* Do not lock cable->lock here because timer->lock is already hold.
+	 * There are other functions which first lock cable->lock and than
+	 * timer->lock e.g.
+	 * loopback_trigger()
+	 * spin_lock(&cable->lock)
+	 * loopback_snd_timer_start()
+	 * snd_timer_start()
+	 * spin_lock(&timer->lock)
+	 * Therefore when using the oposit order of locks here it could result
+	 * in a deadlock.
+	 */
+
+	if (event == SNDRV_TIMER_EVENT_MSTOP) {
+		struct loopback_cable *cable = timeri->callback_data;
+
+		/* sound card of the timer was stopped. Therefore there will not
+		 * be any further timer callbacks. Due to this forward audio
+		 * data from here if in draining state. When still in running
+		 * state the streaming will be aborted by the usual timeout. It
+		 * should not be aborted here because may be the timer sound
+		 * card does only a recovery and the timer is back soon.
+		 * This tasklet triggers loopback_snd_timer_tasklet()
+		 */
+		tasklet_schedule(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet);
+	}
+}
+
 static void loopback_jiffies_timer_dpcm_info(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm,
 					     struct snd_info_buffer *buffer)
 {
@@ -588,6 +845,20 @@  static void loopback_jiffies_timer_dpcm_info(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm,
 	snd_iprintf(buffer, "    timer_expires:\t%lu\n", dpcm->timer.expires);
 }
 
+static void loopback_snd_timer_dpcm_info(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm,
+					 struct snd_info_buffer *buffer)
+{
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+
+	snd_iprintf(buffer, "    sound timer:\thw:%d,%d,%d\n",
+		    cable->snd_timer.id.card,
+		    cable->snd_timer.id.device,
+		    cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice);
+	snd_iprintf(buffer, "    timer open:\t\t%s\n",
+		    (cable->snd_timer.stream == SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE) ?
+			    "capture" : "playback");
+}
+
 static snd_pcm_uframes_t loopback_pointer(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 {
 	struct snd_pcm_runtime *runtime = substream->runtime;
@@ -706,6 +977,23 @@  static int rule_channels(struct snd_pcm_hw_params *params,
 	return snd_interval_refine(hw_param_interval(params, rule->var), &t);
 }
 
+static int rule_period_bytes(struct snd_pcm_hw_params *params,
+			     struct snd_pcm_hw_rule *rule)
+{
+	struct loopback_pcm *dpcm = rule->private;
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+	struct snd_interval t;
+
+	mutex_lock(&dpcm->loopback->cable_lock);
+	t.min = cable->hw.period_bytes_min;
+	t.max = cable->hw.period_bytes_max;
+	mutex_unlock(&dpcm->loopback->cable_lock);
+	t.openmin = 0;
+	t.openmax = 0;
+	t.integer = 0;
+	return snd_interval_refine(hw_param_interval(params, rule->var), &t);
+}
+
 static void free_cable(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 {
 	struct loopback *loopback = substream->private_data;
@@ -748,6 +1036,163 @@  static struct loopback_ops loopback_jiffies_timer_ops = {
 	.dpcm_info = loopback_jiffies_timer_dpcm_info,
 };
 
+static int loopback_parse_timer_id(const char *str,
+				   struct snd_timer_id *tid)
+{
+	/* [<pref>:](<card name>|<card idx>)[{.,}<dev idx>[{.,}<subdev idx>]] */
+	const char * const sep_dev = ".,";
+	const char * const sep_pref = ":";
+	const char *name = str;
+	char *sep, save = '\0';
+	int card_idx = 0, dev = 0, subdev = 0;
+	int err;
+
+	sep = strpbrk(str, sep_pref);
+	if (sep)
+		name = sep + 1;
+	sep = strpbrk(name, sep_dev);
+	if (sep) {
+		save = *sep;
+		*sep = '\0';
+	}
+	err = kstrtoint(name, 0, &card_idx);
+	if (err == -EINVAL) {
+		/* Must be the name, not number */
+		for (card_idx = 0; card_idx < snd_ecards_limit; card_idx++) {
+			struct snd_card *card = snd_card_ref(card_idx);
+
+			if (card) {
+				if (!strcmp(card->id, name))
+					err = 0;
+				snd_card_unref(card);
+			}
+			if (!err)
+				break;
+		}
+	}
+	if (sep) {
+		*sep = save;
+		if (!err) {
+			char *sep2, save2 = '\0';
+
+			sep2 = strpbrk(sep + 1, sep_dev);
+			if (sep2) {
+				save2 = *sep2;
+				*sep2 = '\0';
+			}
+			err = kstrtoint(sep + 1, 0, &dev);
+			if (sep2) {
+				*sep2 = save2;
+				if (!err)
+					err = kstrtoint(sep2 + 1, 0, &subdev);
+			}
+		}
+	}
+	if (!err && tid) {
+		tid->card = card_idx;
+		tid->device = dev;
+		tid->subdevice = subdev;
+	}
+	return err;
+}
+
+/* call in loopback->cable_lock */
+static int loopback_snd_timer_open(struct loopback_pcm *dpcm)
+{
+	int err = 0;
+	struct snd_timer_id tid = {
+		.dev_class = SNDRV_TIMER_CLASS_PCM,
+		.dev_sclass = SNDRV_TIMER_SCLASS_APPLICATION,
+	};
+	struct snd_timer_instance *timeri;
+	struct loopback_cable *cable = dpcm->cable;
+
+	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
+
+	/* check if timer was already opened. It is only opened once
+	 * per playback and capture subdevice (aka cable).
+	 */
+	if (cable->snd_timer.instance)
+		goto unlock;
+
+	err = loopback_parse_timer_id(dpcm->loopback->timer_source, &tid);
+	if (err < 0) {
+		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
+			"Parsing timer source \'%s\' failed with %d",
+			dpcm->loopback->timer_source, err);
+		goto unlock;
+	}
+
+	cable->snd_timer.stream = dpcm->substream->stream;
+	cable->snd_timer.id = tid;
+
+	timeri = snd_timer_instance_new(dpcm->loopback->card->id);
+	if (!timeri) {
+		err = -ENOMEM;
+		goto unlock;
+	}
+	/* The callback has to be called from another tasklet. If
+	 * SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_FAST is specified it will be called from the
+	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() call of the selected sound card.
+	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() helds snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
+	 * Due to our callback loopback_snd_timer_function() also calls
+	 * snd_pcm_period_elapsed() which calls snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave().
+	 * This would end up in a dead lock.
+	 */
+	timeri->flags |= SNDRV_TIMER_IFLG_AUTO;
+	timeri->callback = loopback_snd_timer_function;
+	timeri->callback_data = (void *)cable;
+	timeri->ccallback = loopback_snd_timer_event;
+
+	/* snd_timer_close() and snd_timer_open() should not be called with
+	 * locked spinlock because both functions can block on a mutex. The
+	 * mutex loopback->cable_lock is kept locked. Therefore snd_timer_open()
+	 * cannot be called a second time by the other device of the same cable.
+	 * Therefore the following issue cannot happen:
+	 * [proc1] Call loopback_timer_open() ->
+	 *	   Unlock cable->lock for snd_timer_close/open() call
+	 * [proc2] Call loopback_timer_open() -> snd_timer_open(),
+	 *	   snd_timer_start()
+	 * [proc1] Call snd_timer_open() and overwrite running timer
+	 *	   instance
+	 */
+	spin_unlock_irq(&cable->lock);
+	err = snd_timer_open(timeri, &cable->snd_timer.id, current->pid);
+	if (err < 0) {
+		pcm_err(dpcm->substream->pcm,
+			"snd_timer_open (%d,%d,%d) failed with %d",
+			cable->snd_timer.id.card,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.device,
+			cable->snd_timer.id.subdevice,
+			err);
+		snd_timer_instance_free(timeri);
+		return err;
+	}
+	spin_lock_irq(&cable->lock);
+
+	cable->snd_timer.instance = timeri;
+
+	/* initialise a tasklet used for draining */
+	tasklet_init(&cable->snd_timer.event_tasklet,
+		     loopback_snd_timer_tasklet, (unsigned long)timeri);
+
+unlock:
+	spin_unlock_irq(&cable->lock);
+
+	return err;
+}
+
+/* stop_sync() is not required for sound timer because it does not need to be
+ * restarted in loopback_prepare() on Xrun recovery
+ */
+static struct loopback_ops loopback_snd_timer_ops = {
+	.open = loopback_snd_timer_open,
+	.start = loopback_snd_timer_start,
+	.stop = loopback_snd_timer_stop,
+	.close_cable = loopback_snd_timer_close_cable,
+	.dpcm_info = loopback_snd_timer_dpcm_info,
+};
+
 static int loopback_open(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 {
 	struct snd_pcm_runtime *runtime = substream->runtime;
@@ -775,7 +1220,10 @@  static int loopback_open(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 		}
 		spin_lock_init(&cable->lock);
 		cable->hw = loopback_pcm_hardware;
-		cable->ops = &loopback_jiffies_timer_ops;
+		if (loopback->timer_source)
+			cable->ops = &loopback_snd_timer_ops;
+		else
+			cable->ops = &loopback_jiffies_timer_ops;
 		loopback->cables[substream->number][dev] = cable;
 	}
 	dpcm->cable = cable;
@@ -811,6 +1259,19 @@  static int loopback_open(struct snd_pcm_substream *substream)
 	if (err < 0)
 		goto unlock;
 
+	/* In case of sound timer the period time of both devices of the same
+	 * loop has to be the same.
+	 * This rule only takes effect if a sound timer was chosen
+	 */
+	if (cable->snd_timer.instance) {
+		err = snd_pcm_hw_rule_add(runtime, 0,
+					  SNDRV_PCM_HW_PARAM_PERIOD_BYTES,
+					  rule_period_bytes, dpcm,
+					  SNDRV_PCM_HW_PARAM_PERIOD_BYTES, -1);
+		if (err < 0)
+			goto unlock;
+	}
+
 	/* loopback_runtime_free() has not to be called if kfree(dpcm) was
 	 * already called here. Otherwise it will end up with a double free.
 	 */
@@ -1214,6 +1675,18 @@  static int loopback_proc_new(struct loopback *loopback, int cidx)
 				    print_cable_info);
 }
 
+static void loopback_set_timer_source(struct loopback *loopback,
+				      const char *value)
+{
+	if (loopback->timer_source) {
+		devm_kfree(loopback->card->dev, loopback->timer_source);
+		loopback->timer_source = NULL;
+	}
+	if (value && *value)
+		loopback->timer_source = devm_kstrdup(loopback->card->dev,
+						      value, GFP_KERNEL);
+}
+
 static int loopback_probe(struct platform_device *devptr)
 {
 	struct snd_card *card;
@@ -1233,6 +1706,8 @@  static int loopback_probe(struct platform_device *devptr)
 		pcm_substreams[dev] = MAX_PCM_SUBSTREAMS;
 	
 	loopback->card = card;
+	loopback_set_timer_source(loopback, timer_source[dev]);
+
 	mutex_init(&loopback->cable_lock);
 
 	err = loopback_pcm_new(loopback, 0, pcm_substreams[dev]);