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Andrzej Pietrasiewicz June 16, 2020, 5:29 p.m. UTC
Document inhibiting input devices and its relation to being
a wakeup source.

Signed-off-by: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
---

@Hans, @Dmitry,

My fist attempt at documenting inhibiting. Kindly look at it to see if I haven't got anything
wrong.

Andrzej

 Documentation/input/input-programming.rst | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)

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Randy Dunlap June 16, 2020, 5:38 p.m. UTC | #1
On 6/16/20 10:29 AM, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> Document inhibiting input devices and its relation to being
> a wakeup source.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
> ---

Hi,
I have some editorial comments. Please see below.


> @Hans, @Dmitry,
> 
> My fist attempt at documenting inhibiting. Kindly look at it to see if I haven't got anything
> wrong.
> 
> Andrzej
> 
>  Documentation/input/input-programming.rst | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> index 45a4c6e05e39..0cd1ad4504fb 100644
> --- a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> @@ -164,6 +164,42 @@ disconnects. Calls to both callbacks are serialized.
>  The open() callback should return a 0 in case of success or any nonzero value
>  in case of failure. The close() callback (which is void) must always succeed.
>  
> +Inhibiting input devices
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Inhibiting a device means ignoring input events from it. As such it is about maintaining
> +relationships with input handlers - either an already existing relationships, or
> +relationships to be established while the device is in inhibited state.
> +
> +If a device is inhibited, no input handler will receive events from it.
> +
> +The fact that nobody wants events from the device is exploited further, by calling device's
> +close() (if there are users) and open() (if there are users) on inhibit and uninhibit
> +operations, respectively. Indeed, the meaning of close() is to stop providing events
> +to the input core and that of open() is to start providing events to the input core.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to opening and closing the device by input

                               are

> +handlers. Userspace might want to inhibit a device in anticipation before any handler is
> +positively matched against it.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to device's being a wakeup source, too. Being a

                               are

> +wakeup source plays a role when the system is sleeping, not when the system is operating.
> +How drivers should program their interaction between inhibiting, sleeping and being a wakeup
> +source is driver-specific.
> +
> +Taking the analogy with the network devices - bringing a network interface down doesn't mean
> +that it should be impossible to be wake the system up on LAN through this interface. So, there
> +may be input drivers which should be considered wakeup sources even when inhibited. Actually,
> +in many i2c input devices their interrupt is declared a wakeup interrupt and its handling

           I2C

> +happens in driver's core, which is not aware of input-specific inhibit (nor should it be).
> +Composite devices containing several interfaces can be inhibited on a per-interface basis and
> +e.g. inhibiting one interface shouldn't affect the device's capability of being a wakeup source.
> +
> +If a device is to be considered a wakeup source while inhibited, special care must be taken when
> +programming its suspend(), as it might need to call device's open(). Depending on what close()
> +means for the device in question not opening() it before going to sleep might make it impossible

                        in question, not

> +to provide any wakeup events. The device is going to sleep anyway.
> +
>  Basic event types
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  
> 

thanks for documentation.
Hans de Goede June 17, 2020, 7:44 a.m. UTC | #2
Hi,

On 6/16/20 7:29 PM, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> Document inhibiting input devices and its relation to being
> a wakeup source.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
> ---
> 
> @Hans, @Dmitry,
> 
> My fist attempt at documenting inhibiting. Kindly look at it to see if I haven't got anything
> wrong.
> 
> Andrzej
> 
>   Documentation/input/input-programming.rst | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> index 45a4c6e05e39..0cd1ad4504fb 100644
> --- a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
> @@ -164,6 +164,42 @@ disconnects. Calls to both callbacks are serialized.
>   The open() callback should return a 0 in case of success or any nonzero value
>   in case of failure. The close() callback (which is void) must always succeed.
>   
> +Inhibiting input devices
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Inhibiting a device means ignoring input events from it. As such it is about maintaining
> +relationships with input handlers - either an already existing relationships, or
> +relationships to be established while the device is in inhibited state.
> +
> +If a device is inhibited, no input handler will receive events from it.
> +
> +The fact that nobody wants events from the device is exploited further, by calling device's
> +close() (if there are users) and open() (if there are users) on inhibit and uninhibit
> +operations, respectively. Indeed, the meaning of close() is to stop providing events
> +to the input core and that of open() is to start providing events to the input core.

Maybe add the following here? :

Calling the device's close() method on inhibit (if there are users) allows the driver
to save power. Either by directly powering down the device or by releasing the
runtime-pm reference it got in open() when the driver is using runtime-pm.

Otherwise this looks good to me. Thank you for doing this, we (including myself)
really need to get better at doucmenting all sorts of kernel things. Often we have
these long discussions about something on the mailinglist and then everyone is
expected to just know what was decided from the on, which really doesn't work all
that well.

> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to opening and closing the device by input
> +handlers. Userspace might want to inhibit a device in anticipation before any handler is
> +positively matched against it.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to device's being a wakeup source, too. Being a
> +wakeup source plays a role when the system is sleeping, not when the system is operating.
> +How drivers should program their interaction between inhibiting, sleeping and being a wakeup
> +source is driver-specific.
> +
> +Taking the analogy with the network devices - bringing a network interface down doesn't mean
> +that it should be impossible to be wake the system up on LAN through this interface. So, there
> +may be input drivers which should be considered wakeup sources even when inhibited. Actually,
> +in many i2c input devices their interrupt is declared a wakeup interrupt and its handling
> +happens in driver's core, which is not aware of input-specific inhibit (nor should it be).
> +Composite devices containing several interfaces can be inhibited on a per-interface basis and
> +e.g. inhibiting one interface shouldn't affect the device's capability of being a wakeup source.
> +
> +If a device is to be considered a wakeup source while inhibited, special care must be taken when
> +programming its suspend(), as it might need to call device's open(). Depending on what close()
> +means for the device in question not opening() it before going to sleep might make it impossible
> +to provide any wakeup events. The device is going to sleep anyway.
> +
>   Basic event types
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>   
> 


Regards,

Hans

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diff --git a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
index 45a4c6e05e39..0cd1ad4504fb 100644
--- a/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
+++ b/Documentation/input/input-programming.rst
@@ -164,6 +164,42 @@  disconnects. Calls to both callbacks are serialized.
 The open() callback should return a 0 in case of success or any nonzero value
 in case of failure. The close() callback (which is void) must always succeed.
 
+Inhibiting input devices
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+Inhibiting a device means ignoring input events from it. As such it is about maintaining
+relationships with input handlers - either an already existing relationships, or
+relationships to be established while the device is in inhibited state.
+
+If a device is inhibited, no input handler will receive events from it.
+
+The fact that nobody wants events from the device is exploited further, by calling device's
+close() (if there are users) and open() (if there are users) on inhibit and uninhibit
+operations, respectively. Indeed, the meaning of close() is to stop providing events
+to the input core and that of open() is to start providing events to the input core.
+
+Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to opening and closing the device by input
+handlers. Userspace might want to inhibit a device in anticipation before any handler is
+positively matched against it.
+
+Inhibiting and uninhibiting is orthogonal to device's being a wakeup source, too. Being a
+wakeup source plays a role when the system is sleeping, not when the system is operating.
+How drivers should program their interaction between inhibiting, sleeping and being a wakeup
+source is driver-specific.
+
+Taking the analogy with the network devices - bringing a network interface down doesn't mean
+that it should be impossible to be wake the system up on LAN through this interface. So, there
+may be input drivers which should be considered wakeup sources even when inhibited. Actually,
+in many i2c input devices their interrupt is declared a wakeup interrupt and its handling
+happens in driver's core, which is not aware of input-specific inhibit (nor should it be).
+Composite devices containing several interfaces can be inhibited on a per-interface basis and
+e.g. inhibiting one interface shouldn't affect the device's capability of being a wakeup source.
+
+If a device is to be considered a wakeup source while inhibited, special care must be taken when
+programming its suspend(), as it might need to call device's open(). Depending on what close()
+means for the device in question not opening() it before going to sleep might make it impossible
+to provide any wakeup events. The device is going to sleep anyway.
+
 Basic event types
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~