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drm/doc: Clarify the dumb object interfaces

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Daniel Vetter Jan. 23, 2014, 1:50 p.m. UTC
- This is _not_ a generic interface to create gem objects, but just an
  interface to make early boot services (like boot splash) with a
  generic KMS userspace driver possible. Hence it's better to move
  the documentation for this from the GEM section to the KMS section,
  next to the creation of framebuffer objects.

- Make it really clear that the returned handle isn't necessarily a
  GEM object (it can also be e.g. a TTM handle when running on top of
  vmwgfx).

- Add a paragraph to make it clear that this is just for unaccelarated
  userspace - gpu drivers need to have their own buffer object
  creation ioctl which is hardware specific.

v2: Clarify that the documentation doesn't just apply to GEM-based
drivers only but is now generally valid, as suggested by David.

v3: Polish the intro sentence a bit and one s/objects/handles/ for
clarification, both suggested by Laurent.

Cc: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
---
 Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl | 129 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
 1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)

Comments

Laurent Pinchart Jan. 24, 2014, 11:13 a.m. UTC | #1
Hi Daniel,

Thank you for the patch.

One last round of nitpicking (including a typo fix, which gives me an excuse 
for a couple more comments :-)).

On Thursday 23 January 2014 14:50:25 Daniel Vetter wrote:
> - This is _not_ a generic interface to create gem objects, but just an
>   interface to make early boot services (like boot splash) with a
>   generic KMS userspace driver possible. Hence it's better to move
>   the documentation for this from the GEM section to the KMS section,
>   next to the creation of framebuffer objects.
> 
> - Make it really clear that the returned handle isn't necessarily a
>   GEM object (it can also be e.g. a TTM handle when running on top of
>   vmwgfx).
> 
> - Add a paragraph to make it clear that this is just for unaccelarated
>   userspace - gpu drivers need to have their own buffer object
>   creation ioctl which is hardware specific.
> 
> v2: Clarify that the documentation doesn't just apply to GEM-based
> drivers only but is now generally valid, as suggested by David.
> 
> v3: Polish the intro sentence a bit and one s/objects/handles/ for
> clarification, both suggested by Laurent.
> 
> Cc: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
> ---
>  Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl | 129 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> 1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
> index ed1d6d289022..767318d5ddb6 100644
> --- a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
> +++ b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl

[snip]

> @@ -1052,6 +998,71 @@ int max_width, max_height;</synopsis>
>  	<function>drm_framebuffer_unregister_private</function>.
>      </sect2>
>      <sect2>
> +      <title>Dumb GEM Objects</title>

What about calling this "Dumb Memory Objects" (or something similar), as 
they're not specific to GEM ?

> +      <para>
> +	The KMS API doesn't standardize backing storage object creation and
> +	leaves it to driver-specific ioctls. Furthermore actually creating a
> +	buffer object even for GEM-based drivers is done through a
> +	driver-specific ioctl - GEM only has a common userspace interface for
> +	sharing and destroying objects. While not an issue for full-fledged
> +	graphics stacks that include device-specific userspace components (in
> +	libdrm for instance), this limit makes DRM-based early boot graphics
> +	unnecessarily complex.
> +      </para>
> +      <para>
> +        Dumb objects partly alleviate the problem by providing a standard
> +        API to create dumb buffers suitable for scanout, which can then be
> used
> +        to create KMS frame buffers.
> +      </para>
> +      <para>
> +        To support dumb objects drivers must implement the
> +        <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>,
> +        <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> and
> +        <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operations.
> +      </para>
> +      <itemizedlist>
> +        <listitem>
> +          <synopsis>int (*dumb_create)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct
> drm_device *dev,
> +                   struct drm_mode_create_dumb *args);</synopsis>
> +          <para>
> +            The <methodname>dumb_create</methodname> operation creates a
> driver
> +	    object (GEM or TTM handle) object suitable for scanout based on the

s/object suitable/suitable/ ?

> +	    width, height and depth from the struct
> +	    <structname>drm_mode_create_dumb</structname> argument. It fills the
> +	    argument's <structfield>handle</structfield>,
> +	    <structfield>pitch</structfield> and <structfield>size</structfield>
> +	    fields with a handle for the newly created object and its line
> +            pitch and size in bytes.
> +          </para>
> +        </listitem>
> +        <listitem>
> +          <synopsis>int (*dumb_destroy)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct
> drm_device *dev,
> +                    uint32_t handle);</synopsis>
> +          <para>
> +            The <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> operation destroys a
> dumb
> +            object created by <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>.
> +          </para>
> +        </listitem>
> +        <listitem>
> +          <synopsis>int (*dumb_map_offset)(struct drm_file *file_priv,
> struct drm_device *dev,
> +                       uint32_t handle, uint64_t *offset);</synopsis>
> +          <para>
> +            The <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operation
> associates an
> +            mmap fake offset with the object given by the handle and
> returns
> +            it. Drivers must use the
> +            <function>drm_gem_create_mmap_offset</function> function to
> +            associate the fake offset as described in
> +            <xref linkend="drm-gem-objects-mapping"/>.
> +          </para>
> +        </listitem>
> +      </itemizedlist>
> +      <para>
> +        Note that dumb objects may not be used for gpu accelaration, as has
> been
> +	attempted on some ARM embedded platforms. Such drivers really must have
> +	a hardware-specific ioctl to allocate suitable objects.

What about s/objects/memory objects/ ? "object" alone is rather vague for 
people not too familiar with DRM/KMS.

> +      </para>
> +    </sect2>
> +    <sect2>
>        <title>Output Polling</title>
>        <synopsis>void (*output_poll_changed)(struct drm_device
> *dev);</synopsis> <para>
Daniel Vetter Jan. 24, 2014, 4:53 p.m. UTC | #2
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:13:11PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thank you for the patch.
> 
> One last round of nitpicking (including a typo fix, which gives me an excuse 
> for a couple more comments :-)).
> 
> On Thursday 23 January 2014 14:50:25 Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > - This is _not_ a generic interface to create gem objects, but just an
> >   interface to make early boot services (like boot splash) with a
> >   generic KMS userspace driver possible. Hence it's better to move
> >   the documentation for this from the GEM section to the KMS section,
> >   next to the creation of framebuffer objects.
> > 
> > - Make it really clear that the returned handle isn't necessarily a
> >   GEM object (it can also be e.g. a TTM handle when running on top of
> >   vmwgfx).
> > 
> > - Add a paragraph to make it clear that this is just for unaccelarated
> >   userspace - gpu drivers need to have their own buffer object
> >   creation ioctl which is hardware specific.
> > 
> > v2: Clarify that the documentation doesn't just apply to GEM-based
> > drivers only but is now generally valid, as suggested by David.
> > 
> > v3: Polish the intro sentence a bit and one s/objects/handles/ for
> > clarification, both suggested by Laurent.
> > 
> > Cc: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl | 129 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> > 1 file changed, 70 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
> > index ed1d6d289022..767318d5ddb6 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
> > +++ b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > @@ -1052,6 +998,71 @@ int max_width, max_height;</synopsis>
> >  	<function>drm_framebuffer_unregister_private</function>.
> >      </sect2>
> >      <sect2>
> > +      <title>Dumb GEM Objects</title>
> 
> What about calling this "Dumb Memory Objects" (or something similar), as 
> they're not specific to GEM ?

I've gone through the entire section to remove all GEM-specific language
and missed the title. That's some good fail right there ;-) I'm going with
buffer objects, which I think is the most established language for gfx
memory management - GL also uses it in specs.

[snip]

> > +	attempted on some ARM embedded platforms. Such drivers really must have
> > +	a hardware-specific ioctl to allocate suitable objects.
> 
> What about s/objects/memory objects/ ? "object" alone is rather vague for 
> people not too familiar with DRM/KMS.

Also opted for buffer object here. Other suggestions applies unchaged.

Thanks, Daniel
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diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
index ed1d6d289022..767318d5ddb6 100644
--- a/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
+++ b/Documentation/DocBook/drm.tmpl
@@ -830,62 +830,6 @@  char *date;</synopsis>
         </para>
       </sect3>
       <sect3>
-        <title>Dumb GEM Objects</title>
-        <para>
-          The GEM API doesn't standardize GEM objects creation and leaves it to
-          driver-specific ioctls. While not an issue for full-fledged graphics
-          stacks that include device-specific userspace components (in libdrm for
-          instance), this limit makes DRM-based early boot graphics unnecessarily
-          complex.
-        </para>
-        <para>
-          Dumb GEM objects partly alleviate the problem by providing a standard
-          API to create dumb buffers suitable for scanout, which can then be used
-          to create KMS frame buffers.
-        </para>
-        <para>
-          To support dumb GEM objects drivers must implement the
-          <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>,
-          <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> and
-          <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operations.
-        </para>
-        <itemizedlist>
-          <listitem>
-            <synopsis>int (*dumb_create)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
-                     struct drm_mode_create_dumb *args);</synopsis>
-            <para>
-              The <methodname>dumb_create</methodname> operation creates a GEM
-              object suitable for scanout based on the width, height and depth
-              from the struct <structname>drm_mode_create_dumb</structname>
-              argument. It fills the argument's <structfield>handle</structfield>,
-              <structfield>pitch</structfield> and <structfield>size</structfield>
-              fields with a handle for the newly created GEM object and its line
-              pitch and size in bytes.
-            </para>
-          </listitem>
-          <listitem>
-            <synopsis>int (*dumb_destroy)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
-                      uint32_t handle);</synopsis>
-            <para>
-              The <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> operation destroys a dumb
-              GEM object created by <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>.
-            </para>
-          </listitem>
-          <listitem>
-            <synopsis>int (*dumb_map_offset)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
-                         uint32_t handle, uint64_t *offset);</synopsis>
-            <para>
-              The <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operation associates an
-              mmap fake offset with the GEM object given by the handle and returns
-              it. Drivers must use the
-              <function>drm_gem_create_mmap_offset</function> function to
-              associate the fake offset as described in
-              <xref linkend="drm-gem-objects-mapping"/>.
-            </para>
-          </listitem>
-        </itemizedlist>
-      </sect3>
-      <sect3>
         <title>Memory Coherency</title>
         <para>
           When mapped to the device or used in a command buffer, backing pages
@@ -968,9 +912,11 @@  int max_width, max_height;</synopsis>
         Frame buffers rely on the underneath memory manager for low-level memory
         operations. When creating a frame buffer applications pass a memory
         handle (or a list of memory handles for multi-planar formats) through
-        the <parameter>drm_mode_fb_cmd2</parameter> argument. This document
-        assumes that the driver uses GEM, those handles thus reference GEM
-        objects.
+	the <parameter>drm_mode_fb_cmd2</parameter> argument. For drivers using
+	GEM as their userspace buffer management interface this would be a GEM
+	handle.  Drivers are however free to use their own backing storage object
+	handles, e.g. vmwgfx directly exposes special TTM handles to userspace
+	and so expects TTM handles in the create ioctl and not GEM handles.
       </para>
       <para>
         Drivers must first validate the requested frame buffer parameters passed
@@ -1052,6 +998,71 @@  int max_width, max_height;</synopsis>
 	<function>drm_framebuffer_unregister_private</function>.
     </sect2>
     <sect2>
+      <title>Dumb GEM Objects</title>
+      <para>
+	The KMS API doesn't standardize backing storage object creation and
+	leaves it to driver-specific ioctls. Furthermore actually creating a
+	buffer object even for GEM-based drivers is done through a
+	driver-specific ioctl - GEM only has a common userspace interface for
+	sharing and destroying objects. While not an issue for full-fledged
+	graphics stacks that include device-specific userspace components (in
+	libdrm for instance), this limit makes DRM-based early boot graphics
+	unnecessarily complex.
+      </para>
+      <para>
+        Dumb objects partly alleviate the problem by providing a standard
+        API to create dumb buffers suitable for scanout, which can then be used
+        to create KMS frame buffers.
+      </para>
+      <para>
+        To support dumb objects drivers must implement the
+        <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>,
+        <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> and
+        <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operations.
+      </para>
+      <itemizedlist>
+        <listitem>
+          <synopsis>int (*dumb_create)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
+                   struct drm_mode_create_dumb *args);</synopsis>
+          <para>
+            The <methodname>dumb_create</methodname> operation creates a driver
+	    object (GEM or TTM handle) object suitable for scanout based on the
+	    width, height and depth from the struct
+	    <structname>drm_mode_create_dumb</structname> argument. It fills the
+	    argument's <structfield>handle</structfield>,
+	    <structfield>pitch</structfield> and <structfield>size</structfield>
+	    fields with a handle for the newly created object and its line
+            pitch and size in bytes.
+          </para>
+        </listitem>
+        <listitem>
+          <synopsis>int (*dumb_destroy)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
+                    uint32_t handle);</synopsis>
+          <para>
+            The <methodname>dumb_destroy</methodname> operation destroys a dumb
+            object created by <methodname>dumb_create</methodname>.
+          </para>
+        </listitem>
+        <listitem>
+          <synopsis>int (*dumb_map_offset)(struct drm_file *file_priv, struct drm_device *dev,
+                       uint32_t handle, uint64_t *offset);</synopsis>
+          <para>
+            The <methodname>dumb_map_offset</methodname> operation associates an
+            mmap fake offset with the object given by the handle and returns
+            it. Drivers must use the
+            <function>drm_gem_create_mmap_offset</function> function to
+            associate the fake offset as described in
+            <xref linkend="drm-gem-objects-mapping"/>.
+          </para>
+        </listitem>
+      </itemizedlist>
+      <para>
+        Note that dumb objects may not be used for gpu accelaration, as has been
+	attempted on some ARM embedded platforms. Such drivers really must have
+	a hardware-specific ioctl to allocate suitable objects.
+      </para>
+    </sect2>
+    <sect2>
       <title>Output Polling</title>
       <synopsis>void (*output_poll_changed)(struct drm_device *dev);</synopsis>
       <para>