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Series [1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY | expand

Commit Message

Lang Yu May 27, 2021, 1:30 a.m. UTC
Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
GTT allocation use.

Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
---
 include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

Comments

Thomas Hellström (Intel) May 27, 2021, 7:42 a.m. UTC | #1
Hi,

On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
> GTT allocation use.

GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like 
TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we instead set 
aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?

Thomas
Christian König May 27, 2021, 11:45 a.m. UTC | #2
Am 27.05.21 um 03:30 schrieb Lang Yu:
> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
> GTT allocation use.
>
> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>

Reviewed-by: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> for this patch here.

> ---
>   include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
> index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>    * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>    */
>   
> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>   
>   /**
>    * struct ttm_place
Lang Yu May 31, 2021, 8:19 a.m. UTC | #3
[Public]

>Hi,

>On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>> GTT allocation use.

>GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like 
>TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we instead set 
>aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?

Hi Thomas,  

Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics Translation Table here, seems
a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other drives.
I have made other patches for this. Please help review. 

Regards,
Lang

>Thomas

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
><Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>
>Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag
>for temporary GTT allocation use.
>
>Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>---
> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
>diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
>--- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>+++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>@@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>  * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>  */
>
>-#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>-#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>
> /**
>  * struct ttm_place
>--
>2.25.1
Thomas Hellström (Intel) May 31, 2021, 9:52 a.m. UTC | #4
Hi, Lang,

On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
> [Public]
>
>> Hi,
>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>> GTT allocation use.
>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we instead set
>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics Translation Table here, seems
> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other drives.
> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>
> Regards,
> Lang
>
My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no specific 
core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver specific flag to avoid 
future confusion. In particular a writer of a generic TTM resource 
manager should be able to know without looking at an old commit message 
what the placement flag is intended for.

So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate and 
that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu bo is 
evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)

The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept it 
into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a driver 
specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver specific flags for 
that.

So shouldn't this be two flags, really?

TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE

and

AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY

Thanks,

/Thomas

>> Thomas
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>
>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag
>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>> ---
>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>   */
>>
>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>
>> /**
>>   * struct ttm_place
>> --
>> 2.25.1
Christian König May 31, 2021, 10:32 a.m. UTC | #5
Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
> Hi, Lang,
>
> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>> [Public]
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we instead 
>>> set
>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics Translation 
>> Table here, seems
>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other 
>> drives.
>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lang
>>
> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no specific 
> core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver specific flag to 
> avoid future confusion. In particular a writer of a generic TTM 
> resource manager should be able to know without looking at an old 
> commit message what the placement flag is intended for.
>
> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate and 
> that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu bo is 
> evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)
>
> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept it 
> into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a driver 
> specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver specific flags 
> for that.
>
> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?

Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers want to 
signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not considered valid.

That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations to 
avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.

Christian.

>
> TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE
>
> and
>
> AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Thomas
>
>>> Thomas
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>
>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag
>>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>> ---
>>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 
>>> 100644
>>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>>   */
>>>
>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>>
>>> /**
>>>   * struct ttm_place
>>> -- 
>>> 2.25.1
> _______________________________________________
> amd-gfx mailing list
> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx
Thomas Hellström (Intel) May 31, 2021, 10:46 a.m. UTC | #6
On 5/31/21 12:32 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>> Hi, Lang,
>>
>> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>>> [Public]
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we 
>>>> instead set
>>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics Translation 
>>> Table here, seems
>>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other 
>>> drives.
>>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Lang
>>>
>> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
>> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no 
>> specific core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver specific 
>> flag to avoid future confusion. In particular a writer of a generic 
>> TTM resource manager should be able to know without looking at an old 
>> commit message what the placement flag is intended for.
>>
>> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate and 
>> that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu bo is 
>> evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)
>>
>> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept it 
>> into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a driver 
>> specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver specific flags 
>> for that.
>>
>> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?
>
> Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers want 
> to signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not 
> considered valid.
>
> That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations to 
> avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.
>
OK, but it looked like there were actually two use-cases. One for 
possibly long-term VRAM evictions to GTT, the other for the temporary 
use-case where the hop resource allocations sometimes failed. Or did I 
misunderstand the code?

/Thomas


> Christian.
>
>>
>> TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE
>>
>> and
>>
>> AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /Thomas
>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>>>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>>>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>>>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>
>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag
>>>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 
>>>> 100644
>>>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>>>   */
>>>>
>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>>>
>>>> /**
>>>>   * struct ttm_place
>>>> -- 
>>>> 2.25.1
>> _______________________________________________
>> amd-gfx mailing list
>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx
Christian König May 31, 2021, 10:56 a.m. UTC | #7
Am 31.05.21 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>
> On 5/31/21 12:32 PM, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>> Hi, Lang,
>>>
>>> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>>>> [Public]
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we 
>>>>> instead set
>>>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics Translation 
>>>> Table here, seems
>>>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other 
>>>> drives.
>>>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Lang
>>>>
>>> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
>>> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no 
>>> specific core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver specific 
>>> flag to avoid future confusion. In particular a writer of a generic 
>>> TTM resource manager should be able to know without looking at an 
>>> old commit message what the placement flag is intended for.
>>>
>>> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate 
>>> and that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu 
>>> bo is evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)
>>>
>>> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept it 
>>> into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a driver 
>>> specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver specific flags 
>>> for that.
>>>
>>> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?
>>
>> Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers want 
>> to signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not 
>> considered valid.
>>
>> That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations to 
>> avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.
>>
> OK, but it looked like there were actually two use-cases. One for 
> possibly long-term VRAM evictions to GTT, the other for the temporary 
> use-case where the hop resource allocations sometimes failed. Or did I 
> misunderstand the code?

Ok sounds like we need more documentation here. That's really one use case.

Key point is we need temporary allocation during multihop which should 
be handled differently to normal allocations.

When Lang is ok with that I think I will pick up his patches and 
document them a bit.

Christian.

>
> /Thomas
>
>
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> /Thomas
>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>>>>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>>>>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>>>>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>>
>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag
>>>>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>>>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 
>>>>> 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>>>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>>>>   */
>>>>>
>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>>>>
>>>>> /**
>>>>>   * struct ttm_place
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 2.25.1
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> amd-gfx mailing list
>>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
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>>>
Thomas Hellström (Intel) May 31, 2021, 11:19 a.m. UTC | #8
On 5/31/21 12:56 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 31.05.21 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>
>> On 5/31/21 12:32 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>>> Hi, Lang,
>>>>
>>>> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>>>>> [Public]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>>>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we 
>>>>>> instead set
>>>>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics 
>>>>> Translation Table here, seems
>>>>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by other 
>>>>> drives.
>>>>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lang
>>>>>
>>>> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
>>>> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no 
>>>> specific core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver specific 
>>>> flag to avoid future confusion. In particular a writer of a generic 
>>>> TTM resource manager should be able to know without looking at an 
>>>> old commit message what the placement flag is intended for.
>>>>
>>>> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate 
>>>> and that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu 
>>>> bo is evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)
>>>>
>>>> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept 
>>>> it into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a driver 
>>>> specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver specific 
>>>> flags for that.
>>>>
>>>> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?
>>>
>>> Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers want 
>>> to signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not 
>>> considered valid.
>>>
>>> That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations to 
>>> avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.
>>>
>> OK, but it looked like there were actually two use-cases. One for 
>> possibly long-term VRAM evictions to GTT, the other for the temporary 
>> use-case where the hop resource allocations sometimes failed. Or did 
>> I misunderstand the code?
>
> Ok sounds like we need more documentation here. That's really one use 
> case.
>
> Key point is we need temporary allocation during multihop which should 
> be handled differently to normal allocations.

Yes, that part is clear from the patches. The part that I can't fit into 
that pattern is why the evict flags when evicting from visible VRAM to 
GTT or ordinary VRAM is marked with TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY. Wouldn't 
those remain evicted in that placement until re-validated to visible 
VRAM at an unknown future time?

Patch 3/3:

  			amdgpu_bo_placement_from_domain(abo, AMDGPU_GEM_DOMAIN_GTT);
			abo->placements[0].flags |= TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY;



>
> Christian.
>
>>
>> /Thomas
>>
>>
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> /Thomas
>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>>>>>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>>>>>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>>>>>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY 
>>>>>> flag
>>>>>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index 
>>>>>> aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
>>>>>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>>>>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>>>>>   */
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /**
>>>>>>   * struct ttm_place
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 2.25.1
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> amd-gfx mailing list
>>>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freedesktop.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Famd-gfx&amp;data=04%7C01%7CChristian.Koenig%40amd.com%7C3868af2bd5d94aeda94b08d924215b3a%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637580547980190391%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=C7b5wz8Kph5bM8fkFVyXKwSNkSj3lDaxGUnww4jY%2FeM%3D&amp;reserved=0 
>>>>
Christian König May 31, 2021, 12:02 p.m. UTC | #9
Am 31.05.21 um 13:19 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>
> On 5/31/21 12:56 PM, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 31.05.21 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>>
>>> On 5/31/21 12:32 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>> Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>>>> Hi, Lang,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>>>>>> [Public]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>>>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>>>>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we 
>>>>>>> instead set
>>>>>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics 
>>>>>> Translation Table here, seems
>>>>>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by 
>>>>>> other drives.
>>>>>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Lang
>>>>>>
>>>>> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
>>>>> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no 
>>>>> specific core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver 
>>>>> specific flag to avoid future confusion. In particular a writer of 
>>>>> a generic TTM resource manager should be able to know without 
>>>>> looking at an old commit message what the placement flag is 
>>>>> intended for.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate 
>>>>> and that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an amdgpu 
>>>>> bo is evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this situation?)
>>>>>
>>>>> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept 
>>>>> it into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a 
>>>>> driver specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver 
>>>>> specific flags for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?
>>>>
>>>> Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers 
>>>> want to signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not 
>>>> considered valid.
>>>>
>>>> That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations 
>>>> to avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.
>>>>
>>> OK, but it looked like there were actually two use-cases. One for 
>>> possibly long-term VRAM evictions to GTT, the other for the 
>>> temporary use-case where the hop resource allocations sometimes 
>>> failed. Or did I misunderstand the code?
>>
>> Ok sounds like we need more documentation here. That's really one use 
>> case.
>>
>> Key point is we need temporary allocation during multihop which 
>> should be handled differently to normal allocations.
>
> Yes, that part is clear from the patches. The part that I can't fit 
> into that pattern is why the evict flags when evicting from visible 
> VRAM to GTT or ordinary VRAM is marked with TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY. 
> Wouldn't those remain evicted in that placement until re-validated to 
> visible VRAM at an unknown future time?

Not necessarily.

The situation we ran into was the following:
1. OOM on VRAM, we try to evict.

2. GTT space is used up as well, ok evict directly to SYSTEM.

3. For VRAM->SYSTEM eviction we use a temporary bounce buffer.

4. Waiting for the bounce buffer to become idle is interrupted by a 
signal so BO is still backed by bounce buffer.

5. Next CS, BO is validated with VRAM|GTT. TTM sees that it is in GTT 
and doesn't move the buffer.

6. CS goes into nirvana because bounce buffers are not meant to be used 
for CS (we can ignore alignment and accounting for them).


>
> Patch 3/3:
>
>              amdgpu_bo_placement_from_domain(abo, AMDGPU_GEM_DOMAIN_GTT);
>             abo->placements[0].flags |= TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY;

Thanks for pointing that out, this is indeed still the wrong place. 
Going to fix that.

Christian.

>
>
>
>>
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> /Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_FORCE_MOVE
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> AMDGPU_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> /Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>>>> Cc: Koenig, Christian <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>; Huang, Ray
>>>>>>> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander 
>>>>>>> <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>;
>>>>>>> Yu, Lang <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] drm/ttm: cleanup and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY 
>>>>>>> flag
>>>>>>> for temporary GTT allocation use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lang Yu <Lang.Yu@amd.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 5 +++--
>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>>> b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h index 
>>>>>>> aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
>>>>>>> @@ -47,8 +47,9 @@
>>>>>>>   * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
>>>>>>>   */
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
>>>>>>> -#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
>>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
>>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
>>>>>>> +#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /**
>>>>>>>   * struct ttm_place
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> 2.25.1
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> amd-gfx mailing list
>>>>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freedesktop.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Famd-gfx&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C124823f58ee741684d6a08d924260567%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637580568009117976%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=d8k0c8SAcGGp1m4mEmA8nDrM%2FH6b5Mwo9u%2BzR9jiw3A%3D&amp;reserved=0 
>>>>>
Thomas Hellström (Intel) May 31, 2021, 12:09 p.m. UTC | #10
On 5/31/21 2:02 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 31.05.21 um 13:19 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>
>> On 5/31/21 12:56 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 31.05.21 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>>>
>>>> On 5/31/21 12:32 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>> Am 31.05.21 um 11:52 schrieb Thomas Hellström (Intel):
>>>>>> Hi, Lang,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/31/21 10:19 AM, Yu, Lang wrote:
>>>>>>> [Public]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> On 5/27/21 3:30 AM, Lang Yu wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Make TTM_PL_FLAG_* start from zero and add
>>>>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY flag for temporary
>>>>>>>>> GTT allocation use.
>>>>>>>> GTT is a driver private acronym, right? And it doesn't look like
>>>>>>>> TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY will be used in core TTM, so should we 
>>>>>>>> instead set
>>>>>>>> aside a mask in the PL flag for driver-private use?
>>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your comments and advice, GTT means Graphics 
>>>>>>> Translation Table here, seems
>>>>>>> a general acronym. TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY may also be used by 
>>>>>>> other drives.
>>>>>>> I have made other patches for this. Please help review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Lang
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was really that the flag naming and documentation should 
>>>>>> reflect what core ttm is doing with that flag. If there is no 
>>>>>> specific core TTM usage, IMO we should move it to a driver 
>>>>>> specific flag to avoid future confusion. In particular a writer 
>>>>>> of a generic TTM resource manager should be able to know without 
>>>>>> looking at an old commit message what the placement flag is 
>>>>>> intended for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here we add a flag where core TTM forces a bo move on validate 
>>>>>> and that's it. And that appears to be how it's used when an 
>>>>>> amdgpu bo is evicted to GTT, (btw should it be accounted in this 
>>>>>> situation?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other use is to force the amdgpu driver to temporarily accept 
>>>>>> it into GTT when there is a lack of space, and IMHO that's a 
>>>>>> driver specific use and we should allocate a mask for driver 
>>>>>> specific flags for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So shouldn't this be two flags, really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well one flag makes sense for the use case at hand that drivers 
>>>>> want to signal to TTM that an allocation is only temporary and not 
>>>>> considered valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> That we then use this flag to implement temporary GTT allocations 
>>>>> to avoid problems during eviction is just extending that use case.
>>>>>
>>>> OK, but it looked like there were actually two use-cases. One for 
>>>> possibly long-term VRAM evictions to GTT, the other for the 
>>>> temporary use-case where the hop resource allocations sometimes 
>>>> failed. Or did I misunderstand the code?
>>>
>>> Ok sounds like we need more documentation here. That's really one 
>>> use case.
>>>
>>> Key point is we need temporary allocation during multihop which 
>>> should be handled differently to normal allocations.
>>
>> Yes, that part is clear from the patches. The part that I can't fit 
>> into that pattern is why the evict flags when evicting from visible 
>> VRAM to GTT or ordinary VRAM is marked with TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY. 
>> Wouldn't those remain evicted in that placement until re-validated to 
>> visible VRAM at an unknown future time?
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> The situation we ran into was the following:
> 1. OOM on VRAM, we try to evict.
>
> 2. GTT space is used up as well, ok evict directly to SYSTEM.
>
> 3. For VRAM->SYSTEM eviction we use a temporary bounce buffer.
>
> 4. Waiting for the bounce buffer to become idle is interrupted by a 
> signal so BO is still backed by bounce buffer.
>
> 5. Next CS, BO is validated with VRAM|GTT. TTM sees that it is in GTT 
> and doesn't move the buffer.
>
> 6. CS goes into nirvana because bounce buffers are not meant to be 
> used for CS (we can ignore alignment and accounting for them).
>
Yes, makes sense to me.

/Thomas
diff mbox series

Patch

diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
index aa6ba4d0cf78..9f5cfc7c2d5a 100644
--- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
+++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
@@ -47,8 +47,9 @@ 
  * top of the memory area, instead of the bottom.
  */
 
-#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 19)
-#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 22)
+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS  (1 << 0)
+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TOPDOWN     (1 << 1)
+#define TTM_PL_FLAG_TEMPORARY   (1 << 2)
 
 /**
  * struct ttm_place