Message ID | 20250326-toon-blame-tree-v1-0-4173133f3786@iotcl.com (mailing list archive) |
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:18:24PM +0100, Toon Claes wrote: > This is yet another attempt to upstream the builtin command > `git-blame-tree(1)`. This command is similar to git-blame(1) and shows > the most recent modification to paths in a tree.. > > The last attempt (I'm aware of) was made by Ævar in 2023[1]. That > series was based of patches by Peff written in 2011[2]. For what it's worth, the blame-tree implementation that this came from has evolved significantly since it was originally written in 2011. Most recently Stolee and I worked on a version that uses changed-path Bloom filters to narrow the search, passing un-blamed paths to their parents at each level of the traversal. I wonder if it would be easier to start from scratch with the modern implementation rather than land this one and try to build on top of it. Thanks, Taylor
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 04:38:59PM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:18:24PM +0100, Toon Claes wrote: > > This is yet another attempt to upstream the builtin command > > `git-blame-tree(1)`. This command is similar to git-blame(1) and shows > > the most recent modification to paths in a tree.. > > > > The last attempt (I'm aware of) was made by Ævar in 2023[1]. That > > series was based of patches by Peff written in 2011[2]. > > For what it's worth, the blame-tree implementation that this came from > has evolved significantly since it was originally written in 2011. Most > recently Stolee and I worked on a version that uses changed-path Bloom > filters to narrow the search, passing un-blamed paths to their parents > at each level of the traversal. > > I wonder if it would be easier to start from scratch with the modern > implementation rather than land this one and try to build on top of it. Yeah, I'd suggest starting with that work from you and Stolee (though I do not know if it was ever made public?). It should be much faster and will have been battle-tested in production. The pathspec-trie stuff is, I think, still a reasonable idea for general use. But IIRC, the rewritten blame-tree you guys worked on does not benefit from it, because it ditches pathspecs entirely (both because they're too slow without the tries, but also because it's important to continually narrow the pathspec while traversing). That trie code was never run in production, I think (and I see there is a patch to narrow the pathspec while traversing; I suspect that likewise was never used). The max-depth diff code is also in theory a reasonable thing to have in general. But it is awkward to use, and not really necessary for blame-tree. There we really only care about recursing vs not recursing, but the usual "recursive" flag for diffing isn't enough (we have to recurse down to the tree of interest, but may not want to go further). I don't remember how that is handled in your blame-tree rewrites. So that really mostly leaves the blame-tree scaffolding itself. I remember Junio left a lot of good comments on the original thread on how merges should be handled, but I don't think I ever fixed those bits. I don't recall what your rewritten code does there, but I think it may have improved things. So yeah. I don't know if all of this is really a very good starting point. Taylor, if you can share the current code that GitHub is running, I think that would be beneficial for the community. -Peff
On 3/26/2025 4:38 PM, Taylor Blau wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 09:18:24PM +0100, Toon Claes wrote: >> This is yet another attempt to upstream the builtin command >> `git-blame-tree(1)`. This command is similar to git-blame(1) and shows >> the most recent modification to paths in a tree.. >> >> The last attempt (I'm aware of) was made by Ævar in 2023[1]. That >> series was based of patches by Peff written in 2011[2]. > > For what it's worth, the blame-tree implementation that this came from > has evolved significantly since it was originally written in 2011. Most > recently Stolee and I worked on a version that uses changed-path Bloom > filters to narrow the search, passing un-blamed paths to their parents > at each level of the traversal. It's worth mentioning that the underlying algorithm was nearly rebuilt from scratch with this "passing un-blamed paths to their parents" aspect, which unlocked other features such as caching results to be used by future queries, even when the tip branch advances. With that in mind, using the 2011 version is unlikely to be valuable. Taylor: do you have a drop of the latest blame-tree implementation that could be shared with Toon? Thanks, -Stolee
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 02:32:43AM -0400, Jeff King wrote: > The pathspec-trie stuff is, I think, still a reasonable idea for general > use. But IIRC, the rewritten blame-tree you guys worked on does not > benefit from it, because it ditches pathspecs entirely (both because > they're too slow without the tries, but also because it's important to > continually narrow the pathspec while traversing). That trie code was > never run in production, I think (and I see there is a patch to narrow > the pathspec while traversing; I suspect that likewise was never used). Yeah, the rewritten blame-tree code uses changed-path Bloom filters to narrow the set of revisions that we need to actually compute tree-diffs for. The general idea is that we have a set of paths that we have yet to blame, and those are the "interesting" ones. IOW, if a changed-path Bloom filter tells us that we are at some revision where there is maybe a change to one or more unblamed paths, we need to compute a tree-diff. But if the Bloom filter says "no", then we can skip the tree-diff at that layer entirely. > The max-depth diff code is also in theory a reasonable thing to have in > general. But it is awkward to use, and not really necessary for > blame-tree. There we really only care about recursing vs not recursing, > but the usual "recursive" flag for diffing isn't enough (we have to > recurse down to the tree of interest, but may not want to go further). I > don't remember how that is handled in your blame-tree rewrites. I think that's mostly true, but the blame-tree caching stuff that Stolee worked on many years ago and mentioned below does require it IIRC. > So yeah. I don't know if all of this is really a very good starting > point. Taylor, if you can share the current code that GitHub is running, > I think that would be beneficial for the community. Sure. You can fetch from the 'tb/blame-tree' branch from my tree (which is located at 'git@github.com:ttaylorr/git.git'). I owe a huge "thank you" to Victoria Dye, who split out the various topics from GitHub's fork into individual rebased branches. There were many more patches on top that came after Victoria's split above, and I applied those manually. The commit structure probably needs significant clean-up and polishing before it's ready for serious review, since this is more-or-less a raw dump of the work on GitHub's side over more than a decade. It also doesn't pass the tests in t9932 (and the test number should probably also be reworked, it's in the t99xx range so that inclusion in GitHub's fork doesn't cause collisions with new tests when we merge upstream). To that end, I removed everybody's Signed-off-by in case I have mangled their work in some way unintentionally. Thanks, Taylor
Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes: > Sure. You can fetch from the 'tb/blame-tree' branch from my tree (which > is located at 'git@github.com:ttaylorr/git.git'). I owe a huge "thank > you" to Victoria Dye, who split out the various topics from GitHub's > fork into individual rebased branches. > > There were many more patches on top that came after Victoria's split > above, and I applied those manually. The commit structure probably needs > significant clean-up and polishing before it's ready for serious review, > since this is more-or-less a raw dump of the work on GitHub's side over > more than a decade. > > It also doesn't pass the tests in t9932 (and the test number should > probably also be reworked, it's in the t99xx range so that inclusion in > GitHub's fork doesn't cause collisions with new tests when we merge > upstream). To that end, I removed everybody's Signed-off-by in case I > have mangled their work in some way unintentionally. Thanks for sharing. I will check it out.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 05:58:19PM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 02:32:43AM -0400, Jeff King wrote: > > The pathspec-trie stuff is, I think, still a reasonable idea for general > > use. But IIRC, the rewritten blame-tree you guys worked on does not > > benefit from it, because it ditches pathspecs entirely (both because > > they're too slow without the tries, but also because it's important to > > continually narrow the pathspec while traversing). That trie code was > > never run in production, I think (and I see there is a patch to narrow > > the pathspec while traversing; I suspect that likewise was never used). > > Yeah, the rewritten blame-tree code uses changed-path Bloom filters to > narrow the set of revisions that we need to actually compute tree-diffs > for. > > The general idea is that we have a set of paths that we have yet to > blame, and those are the "interesting" ones. IOW, if a changed-path > Bloom filter tells us that we are at some revision where there is maybe > a change to one or more unblamed paths, we need to compute a tree-diff. > But if the Bloom filter says "no", then we can skip the tree-diff at > that layer entirely. You'd still in theory benefit from the tree-diffs you _do_ run using a continually narrowing pathspec. Skimming over the code from your tb/blame-tree branch, it looks like it's just fed the original pathspec. But that's probably good enough in practice. Especially for non-recursive blame-trees, where pruning already-matched entries will never save you from opening another tree anyway. > > So yeah. I don't know if all of this is really a very good starting > > point. Taylor, if you can share the current code that GitHub is running, > > I think that would be beneficial for the community. > > Sure. You can fetch from the 'tb/blame-tree' branch from my tree (which > is located at 'git@github.com:ttaylorr/git.git'). I owe a huge "thank > you" to Victoria Dye, who split out the various topics from GitHub's > fork into individual rebased branches. Thanks. I don't have time to pick it up as a topic myself, but hopefully it can be useful to Toon (or any others interested in the topic). -Peff