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[RFC,v2,0/1] Enforce 4k sectorize by default for mkfs

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Neal Gompa March 21, 2023, 6:06 p.m. UTC
The Fedora Asahi SIG[0] is working on bringing up support for
Apple Silicon Macintosh computers through the Asahi Fedora Remix[1].

Apple Silicon Macs are unusual in that they currently require 16k
page sizes, which means that the current default for mkfs.btrfs(8)
makes a filesystem that is unreadable on x86 PCs and most other ARM
PCs.

Soon, this will be even more of a problem within Apple Silicon Macs
as Asahi Lina is working on 4k support to enable x86 emulation[2]
and since Linux does not support dynamically switching page sizes at
runtime, users will likely regularly switch back and forth depending
on their needs.

Thus, I'd like to see us finally make the switchover to 4k sectorsize
for new filesystems by default, regardless of page size.

The initial test run by Hector Martin[3] at request of Qu Wenruo
looks promising[4], and I hope we can get this to land upstream soon.

This is an update on the initial RFC patch[5], which addresses the
documentation feedback from Anand Jain.

[0]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Asahi
[1]: https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/
[2]: https://vt.social/@lina/110060963422545117
[3]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#m11d7939de96c43b3a7cdabc7c568d8bcafc7ca83
[4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#mf382b78a8122b0cb82147a536c85b6a9098a2895
[5]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#t

Neal Gompa (1):
  btrfs-progs: mkfs: Enforce 4k sectorsize by default

 Documentation/Subpage.rst    | 15 ++++++++-------
 Documentation/mkfs.btrfs.rst | 13 +++++++++----
 mkfs/main.c                  |  2 +-
 3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)

Comments

Qu Wenruo March 22, 2023, 2:25 a.m. UTC | #1
On 2023/3/22 02:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
> The Fedora Asahi SIG[0] is working on bringing up support for
> Apple Silicon Macintosh computers through the Asahi Fedora Remix[1].
> 
> Apple Silicon Macs are unusual in that they currently require 16k
> page sizes, which means that the current default for mkfs.btrfs(8)
> makes a filesystem that is unreadable on x86 PCs and most other ARM
> PCs.
> 
> Soon, this will be even more of a problem within Apple Silicon Macs
> as Asahi Lina is working on 4k support to enable x86 emulation[2]
> and since Linux does not support dynamically switching page sizes at
> runtime, users will likely regularly switch back and forth depending
> on their needs.
> 
> Thus, I'd like to see us finally make the switchover to 4k sectorsize
> for new filesystems by default, regardless of page size.
> 
> The initial test run by Hector Martin[3] at request of Qu Wenruo
> looks promising[4], and I hope we can get this to land upstream soon.

Reviewed-by: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>

And I'm already pulling my aarch64 VM to run subpage tests again, and 
this time with 16K page size, just like the one utilized by Asahi Linux 
project.

The failures reported by Hector is being investigated, and such switch 
in mkfs would bring more feedback from other distros too.
Hopefully we can also remove the experimental warning from kernel soon.

Thanks,
Qu

> 
> This is an update on the initial RFC patch[5], which addresses the
> documentation feedback from Anand Jain.
> 
> [0]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Asahi
> [1]: https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/
> [2]: https://vt.social/@lina/110060963422545117
> [3]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#m11d7939de96c43b3a7cdabc7c568d8bcafc7ca83
> [4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#mf382b78a8122b0cb82147a536c85b6a9098a2895
> [5]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#t
> 
> Neal Gompa (1):
>    btrfs-progs: mkfs: Enforce 4k sectorsize by default
> 
>   Documentation/Subpage.rst    | 15 ++++++++-------
>   Documentation/mkfs.btrfs.rst | 13 +++++++++----
>   mkfs/main.c                  |  2 +-
>   3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>
Josef Bacik March 22, 2023, 2:33 p.m. UTC | #2
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 02:06:09PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> The Fedora Asahi SIG[0] is working on bringing up support for
> Apple Silicon Macintosh computers through the Asahi Fedora Remix[1].
> 
> Apple Silicon Macs are unusual in that they currently require 16k
> page sizes, which means that the current default for mkfs.btrfs(8)
> makes a filesystem that is unreadable on x86 PCs and most other ARM
> PCs.
> 
> Soon, this will be even more of a problem within Apple Silicon Macs
> as Asahi Lina is working on 4k support to enable x86 emulation[2]
> and since Linux does not support dynamically switching page sizes at
> runtime, users will likely regularly switch back and forth depending
> on their needs.
> 
> Thus, I'd like to see us finally make the switchover to 4k sectorsize
> for new filesystems by default, regardless of page size.
> 
> The initial test run by Hector Martin[3] at request of Qu Wenruo
> looks promising[4], and I hope we can get this to land upstream soon.
> 
> This is an update on the initial RFC patch[5], which addresses the
> documentation feedback from Anand Jain.
> 
> [0]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Asahi
> [1]: https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/
> [2]: https://vt.social/@lina/110060963422545117
> [3]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#m11d7939de96c43b3a7cdabc7c568d8bcafc7ca83
> [4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#mf382b78a8122b0cb82147a536c85b6a9098a2895
> [5]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#t
> 

This all looks good to me, you can add

Reviewed-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>

I've got a mac studio on the way, I'll add this to our CI testing to make sure
we've got good coverage of this code going forward.  Thanks,

Josef
Neal Gompa March 22, 2023, 5:11 p.m. UTC | #3
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:33 AM Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 02:06:09PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > The Fedora Asahi SIG[0] is working on bringing up support for
> > Apple Silicon Macintosh computers through the Asahi Fedora Remix[1].
> >
> > Apple Silicon Macs are unusual in that they currently require 16k
> > page sizes, which means that the current default for mkfs.btrfs(8)
> > makes a filesystem that is unreadable on x86 PCs and most other ARM
> > PCs.
> >
> > Soon, this will be even more of a problem within Apple Silicon Macs
> > as Asahi Lina is working on 4k support to enable x86 emulation[2]
> > and since Linux does not support dynamically switching page sizes at
> > runtime, users will likely regularly switch back and forth depending
> > on their needs.
> >
> > Thus, I'd like to see us finally make the switchover to 4k sectorsize
> > for new filesystems by default, regardless of page size.
> >
> > The initial test run by Hector Martin[3] at request of Qu Wenruo
> > looks promising[4], and I hope we can get this to land upstream soon.
> >
> > This is an update on the initial RFC patch[5], which addresses the
> > documentation feedback from Anand Jain.
> >
> > [0]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Asahi
> > [1]: https://asahi-fedora-remix.org/
> > [2]: https://vt.social/@lina/110060963422545117
> > [3]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#m11d7939de96c43b3a7cdabc7c568d8bcafc7ca83
> > [4]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#mf382b78a8122b0cb82147a536c85b6a9098a2895
> > [5]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/fdffeecd-964f-0c69-f869-eb9ceca20263@suse.com/T/#t
> >
>
> This all looks good to me, you can add
>
> Reviewed-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
>
> I've got a mac studio on the way, I'll add this to our CI testing to make sure
> we've got good coverage of this code going forward.  Thanks,
>

Since we've got three Reviewed-by tags (you, Qu, and Anand), do I need
to send another version of this to land or can this land as-is?