Message ID | 20220419160407.1740458-1-Jason@zx2c4.com (mailing list archive) |
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State | Not Applicable |
Delegated to: | Herbert Xu |
Headers | show |
Series | random: add fork_event sysctl for polling VM forks | expand |
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:04 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote: > In order to inform userspace of virtual machine forks, this commit adds > a "fork_event" sysctl, which does not return any data, but allows > userspace processes to poll() on it for notification of VM forks. > > It avoids exposing the actual vmgenid from the hypervisor to userspace, > in case there is any randomness value in keeping it secret. Rather, > userspace is expected to simply use getrandom() if it wants a fresh > value. > > For example, the following snippet can be used to print a message every > time a VM forks, after the RNG has been reseeded: > > struct pollfd fd = { .fd = open("/proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event", O_RDONLY) }; > assert(fd.fd >= 0); > for (;;) { > assert(poll(&fd, 1, -1) > 0); > puts("vm fork detected"); > } This is a bit of a weird API, because normally .poll is supposed to be level-triggered rather than edge-triggered... and AFAIK things like epoll also kinda assume that ->poll() doesn't modify state (but that only _really_ matters in weird cases). But at the same time, it looks like the existing proc_sys_poll() already goes against that? So I don't know what the right thing to do there is...
Hey Jann, On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:38 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > This is a bit of a weird API, because normally .poll is supposed to be > level-triggered rather than edge-triggered... and AFAIK things like > epoll also kinda assume that ->poll() doesn't modify state (but that > only _really_ matters in weird cases). But at the same time, it looks > like the existing proc_sys_poll() already goes against that? So I > don't know what the right thing to do there is... Doesn't the level vs edge distinction apply to POLLIN/POLLOUT events? In this case, the event generated is actually POLLERR. On one hand, this is sort of weird. On the other hand, it perhaps makes sense, since nothing changes respect to its readability/writeability. And it also happens to be how the sysctl poll() infrastructure was designed; I didn't need to change anything for this behavior, and it comes as a result of this rather trivial commit only. Looking at where else it's used, it appears to be the intended use case for changes to hostname/domainname. So while it's unusual, it also appears to be the usual way that sysctl poll() works. So perhaps we're quite lucky here in that sysctl poll() winds up being the correct interface for what we want? Jason
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:42 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote: > Hey Jann, > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:38 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > > This is a bit of a weird API, because normally .poll is supposed to be > > level-triggered rather than edge-triggered... and AFAIK things like > > epoll also kinda assume that ->poll() doesn't modify state (but that > > only _really_ matters in weird cases). But at the same time, it looks > > like the existing proc_sys_poll() already goes against that? So I > > don't know what the right thing to do there is... > > Doesn't the level vs edge distinction apply to POLLIN/POLLOUT events? I don't see why it would be limited to that. > In this case, the event generated is actually POLLERR. On one hand, > this is sort of weird. On the other hand, it perhaps makes sense, > since nothing changes respect to its readability/writeability. And it > also happens to be how the sysctl poll() infrastructure was designed; > I didn't need to change anything for this behavior, and it comes as a > result of this rather trivial commit only. Looking at where else it's > used, it appears to be the intended use case for changes to > hostname/domainname. So while it's unusual, it also appears to be the > usual way that sysctl poll() works. So perhaps we're quite lucky here > in that sysctl poll() winds up being the correct interface for what we > want? AFAIK this also means that if you make an epoll watch for /proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event, and then call poll() *on the epoll fd* for some reason, that will probably already consume the event; and if you then try to actually receive the epoll event via epoll_wait(), it'll already be gone (because epoll tries to re-poll the "ready" files to figure out what state those files are at now). Similarly if you try to create an epoll watch for an FD that already has an event pending: Installing the watch will call the ->poll handler once, resetting the file's state, and the following epoll_wait() will call ->poll again and think the event is already gone. See the call paths to vfs_poll() in fs/eventpoll.c. Maybe we don't care about such exotic usage, and are willing to accept the UAPI inconsistency and slight epoll breakage of plumbing edge-triggered polling through APIs designed for level-triggered polling. IDK.
Hi Jann, On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 9:45 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > AFAIK this also means that if you make an epoll watch for > /proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event, and then call poll() *on the epoll > fd* for some reason, that will probably already consume the event; and > if you then try to actually receive the epoll event via epoll_wait(), > it'll already be gone (because epoll tries to re-poll the "ready" > files to figure out what state those files are at now). Similarly if > you try to create an epoll watch for an FD that already has an event > pending: Installing the watch will call the ->poll handler once, > resetting the file's state, and the following epoll_wait() will call > ->poll again and think the event is already gone. See the call paths > to vfs_poll() in fs/eventpoll.c. > > Maybe we don't care about such exotic usage, and are willing to accept > the UAPI inconsistency and slight epoll breakage of plumbing > edge-triggered polling through APIs designed for level-triggered > polling. IDK. Hmm, I see. The thing is, this is _already_ what's done for domainname/hostname. It's how the sysctl poll handler was "designed". So our options here are: a) Remove this quirky behavior from domainname/hostname and start over. This would potentially break userspace, but maybe nobody uses this? No idea, but sounds risky. b) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was designed, and call it a day. c) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was designed, and then later try to fix up the epoll behavior on this. Of these, (a) seems like a non-starter. (c) is most appealing, but it sounds like it might not actually be possible? Jason
Hey again, On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 02:15:45AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hi Jann, > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 9:45 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > > AFAIK this also means that if you make an epoll watch for > > /proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event, and then call poll() *on the epoll > > fd* for some reason, that will probably already consume the event; and > > if you then try to actually receive the epoll event via epoll_wait(), > > it'll already be gone (because epoll tries to re-poll the "ready" > > files to figure out what state those files are at now). Similarly if > > you try to create an epoll watch for an FD that already has an event > > pending: Installing the watch will call the ->poll handler once, > > resetting the file's state, and the following epoll_wait() will call > > ->poll again and think the event is already gone. See the call paths > > to vfs_poll() in fs/eventpoll.c. > > > > Maybe we don't care about such exotic usage, and are willing to accept > > the UAPI inconsistency and slight epoll breakage of plumbing > > edge-triggered polling through APIs designed for level-triggered > > polling. IDK. > > Hmm, I see. The thing is, this is _already_ what's done for > domainname/hostname. It's how the sysctl poll handler was "designed". > So our options here are: > > a) Remove this quirky behavior from domainname/hostname and start > over. This would potentially break userspace, but maybe nobody uses > this? No idea, but sounds risky. > > b) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was > designed, and call it a day. > > c) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was > designed, and then later try to fix up the epoll behavior on this. > > Of these, (a) seems like a non-starter. (c) is most appealing, but it > sounds like it might not actually be possible? > > Jason I actually tried to verify your concern but didn't have success doing so. Both of these worked: int efd = epoll_create1(0); assert(efd >= 0); struct epoll_event event = { .data.fd = open("/proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event", O_RDONLY) }; assert(event.data.fd >= 0); assert(epoll_ctl(efd, EPOLL_CTL_ADD, event.data.fd, &event) == 0); for (;;) { assert(epoll_wait(efd, &event, 1, -1) == 1); puts("vm fork detected"); } And: int efd = epoll_create1(0); assert(efd >= 0); struct epoll_event event = { .data.fd = open("/proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event", O_RDONLY) }; assert(event.data.fd >= 0); assert(epoll_ctl(efd, EPOLL_CTL_ADD, event.data.fd, &event) == 0); for (;;) { assert(poll(&(struct pollfd){ .fd = efd, .events = POLLIN }, 1, -1) == 1); puts("vm fork detected"); } It also worked if I added EPOLLET to the epoll_event. It did not work if I removed POLLIN from the pollfd event. Maybe I'm missing some subtlety. But what exactly is broken? (Either way, it doesn't change the (a) vs (c) calculus in my previous email.) Jason
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 3:25 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote: > > Hey again, > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 02:15:45AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Hi Jann, > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 9:45 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > > > AFAIK this also means that if you make an epoll watch for > > > /proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event, and then call poll() *on the epoll > > > fd* for some reason, that will probably already consume the event; and > > > if you then try to actually receive the epoll event via epoll_wait(), > > > it'll already be gone (because epoll tries to re-poll the "ready" > > > files to figure out what state those files are at now). Similarly if > > > you try to create an epoll watch for an FD that already has an event > > > pending: Installing the watch will call the ->poll handler once, > > > resetting the file's state, and the following epoll_wait() will call > > > ->poll again and think the event is already gone. See the call paths > > > to vfs_poll() in fs/eventpoll.c. > > > > > > Maybe we don't care about such exotic usage, and are willing to accept > > > the UAPI inconsistency and slight epoll breakage of plumbing > > > edge-triggered polling through APIs designed for level-triggered > > > polling. IDK. > > > > Hmm, I see. The thing is, this is _already_ what's done for > > domainname/hostname. It's how the sysctl poll handler was "designed". > > So our options here are: > > > > a) Remove this quirky behavior from domainname/hostname and start > > over. This would potentially break userspace, but maybe nobody uses > > this? No idea, but sounds risky. > > > > b) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was > > designed, and call it a day. > > > > c) Apply this commit as-is, because it's using the API as the API was > > designed, and then later try to fix up the epoll behavior on this. > > > > Of these, (a) seems like a non-starter. (c) is most appealing, but it > > sounds like it might not actually be possible? > > > > Jason > > I actually tried to verify your concern but didn't have success doing > so. My point is that when you run this code: $ cat edgepoll.c #include <time.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <err.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <poll.h> #include <sys/epoll.h> #define SYSCHK(x) ({ \ typeof(x) __res = (x); \ if (__res == (typeof(x))-1) \ err(1, "SYSCHK(" #x ")"); \ __res; \ }) int main(void) { int epfd = SYSCHK(epoll_create1(0)); int hostname_fd = SYSCHK(open("/proc/sys/kernel/hostname", O_RDONLY)); struct epoll_event event = { .events = EPOLLERR, .data = { .u32 = 1234 } }; SYSCHK(epoll_ctl(epfd, EPOLL_CTL_ADD, hostname_fd, &event)); while (1) { struct pollfd pollfds[1] = { { .fd = epfd, .events = POLLIN } }; int poll_res = poll(pollfds, 1, -1); if (poll_res == -1) { perror("poll() error"); continue; } if (poll_res == 0) { printf("poll(): no events ready (can't happen, we're using timeout=-1)\n"); continue; } struct epoll_event events[1]; int epoll_res = epoll_wait(epfd, events, 1, 0); if (epoll_res == -1) { perror("epoll error"); continue; } if (epoll_res == 0) { printf("spurious epoll readiness\n"); continue; } printf("got epoll fd readiness: events=0x%x, u32=%u\n", events[0].events, events[0].data.u32); } } $ gcc -o edgepoll edgepoll.c $ ./edgepoll and then change the hostname, you'll just get "spurious epoll readiness" logged - simply calling poll() on the epoll FD resets the state of the hostname file that is being polled, so when we then try to receive the epoll event with epoll_wait(), the event is gone. And the other case is this: $ cat edgepoll2.c #include <time.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <err.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <poll.h> #include <sys/epoll.h> #define SYSCHK(x) ({ \ typeof(x) __res = (x); \ if (__res == (typeof(x))-1) \ err(1, "SYSCHK(" #x ")"); \ __res; \ }) int main(void) { int epfd = SYSCHK(epoll_create1(0)); int hostname_fd = SYSCHK(open("/proc/sys/kernel/hostname", O_RDONLY)); printf("opened hostname fd, sleeping\n"); sleep(10); printf("done sleeping\n"); struct epoll_event event = { .events = EPOLLERR, .data = { .u32 = 1234 } }; SYSCHK(epoll_ctl(epfd, EPOLL_CTL_ADD, hostname_fd, &event)); struct epoll_event events[1]; int epoll_res = SYSCHK(epoll_wait(epfd, events, 1, 0)); if (epoll_res == 0) errx(1, "no epoll events ready"); printf("got epoll fd readiness: events=0x%x, u32=%u\n", events[0].events, events[0].data.u32); } $ gcc -o edgepoll2 edgepoll2.c $ ./edgepoll2 opened hostname fd, sleeping done sleeping edgepoll2: no epoll events ready $ If you change the hostname when "opened hostname fd, sleeping" is printed, it'll still say "edgepoll2: no epoll events ready", because the EPOLL_CTL_ADD basically consumed the event.
Hey Jann, Ahh, gotcha, that makes sense. Either way, sounds like something to fix in the sysctl proc API (option c) if possible... Jason
diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst index 1144ea3229a3..ddbd603f0be7 100644 --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst @@ -1001,7 +1001,7 @@ This is a directory, with the following entries: * ``urandom_min_reseed_secs``: obsolete (used to determine the minimum number of seconds between urandom pool reseeding). This file is writable for compatibility purposes, but writing to it has no effect - on any RNG behavior. + on any RNG behavior; * ``uuid``: a UUID generated every time this is retrieved (this can thus be used to generate UUIDs at will); @@ -1009,8 +1009,10 @@ This is a directory, with the following entries: * ``write_wakeup_threshold``: when the entropy count drops below this (as a number of bits), processes waiting to write to ``/dev/random`` are woken up. This file is writable for compatibility purposes, but - writing to it has no effect on any RNG behavior. + writing to it has no effect on any RNG behavior; +* ``fork_event``: unreadable, but can be poll()'d on for notifications + delivered after the RNG reseeds following a virtual machine fork. randomize_va_space ================== diff --git a/drivers/char/random.c b/drivers/char/random.c index bf89c6f27a19..63fba6f042f7 100644 --- a/drivers/char/random.c +++ b/drivers/char/random.c @@ -1187,6 +1187,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(add_bootloader_randomness); #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VMGENID) static BLOCKING_NOTIFIER_HEAD(vmfork_chain); +static DEFINE_CTL_TABLE_POLL(sysctl_fork_event_poll); /* * Handle a new unique VM ID, which is unique, not secret, so we @@ -1201,6 +1202,8 @@ void add_vmfork_randomness(const void *unique_vm_id, size_t size) pr_notice("crng reseeded due to virtual machine fork\n"); } blocking_notifier_call_chain(&vmfork_chain, 0, NULL); + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SYSCTL)) + proc_sys_poll_notify(&sysctl_fork_event_poll); } #if IS_MODULE(CONFIG_VMGENID) EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(add_vmfork_randomness); @@ -1655,6 +1658,8 @@ const struct file_operations urandom_fops = { * It is writable to avoid breaking old userspaces, but writing * to it does not change any behavior of the RNG. * + * - fork_event - an unreadable file that can be poll()'d on for VM forks. + * ********************************************************************/ #ifdef CONFIG_SYSCTL @@ -1708,6 +1713,14 @@ static int proc_do_rointvec(struct ctl_table *table, int write, void *buffer, return write ? 0 : proc_dointvec(table, 0, buffer, lenp, ppos); } +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VMGENID) +static int proc_do_nodata(struct ctl_table *table, int write, void *buffer, + size_t *lenp, loff_t *ppos) +{ + return -ENODATA; +} +#endif + static struct ctl_table random_table[] = { { .procname = "poolsize", @@ -1748,6 +1761,14 @@ static struct ctl_table random_table[] = { .mode = 0444, .proc_handler = proc_do_uuid, }, +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VMGENID) + { + .procname = "fork_event", + .mode = 0444, + .poll = &sysctl_fork_event_poll, + .proc_handler = proc_do_nodata, + }, +#endif { } };
In order to inform userspace of virtual machine forks, this commit adds a "fork_event" sysctl, which does not return any data, but allows userspace processes to poll() on it for notification of VM forks. It avoids exposing the actual vmgenid from the hypervisor to userspace, in case there is any randomness value in keeping it secret. Rather, userspace is expected to simply use getrandom() if it wants a fresh value. For example, the following snippet can be used to print a message every time a VM forks, after the RNG has been reseeded: struct pollfd fd = { .fd = open("/proc/sys/kernel/random/fork_event", O_RDONLY) }; assert(fd.fd >= 0); for (;;) { assert(poll(&fd, 1, -1) > 0); puts("vm fork detected"); } Various programs and libraries that utilize cryptographic operations depending on fresh randomness can invalidate old keys or take other appropriate actions when receiving that event. While this is racier than allowing userspace to mmap/vDSO the vmgenid itself, it's an incremental step forward that's not as heavyweight. Cc: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net> Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> Cc: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com> Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> Cc: Colm MacCarthaigh <colmmacc@amazon.com> Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> --- Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst | 6 ++++-- drivers/char/random.c | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)