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Hi deee Ho peeps! On 3/31/23 15:40, Matti Vaittinen wrote: > Support ROHM BU27034 ALS sensor > > This series adds support for ROHM BU27034 Ambient Light Sensor. I have one word for all of you who worked to get the ROHM BU27034NUC driver working in upstream. Meh. I just found out that the BU27034 sensor which was developed when I wrote this driver had some "manufacturing issues"... The full model number was BU27034NUC. The has been cancelled, and, as far as I know, no significant number of those were manufactured. The issues of BU27034NUC were solved, and new model BU27034ANUC was developed and is available in the ROHM catalog. I did also learn that this new model BU27034ANUC is _not_ functionally equivalent to the BU27034NUC. I am currently clarifying all the differences, and I have requested the HQ to send me a sample for driver development and verification work. This far I've come to know at least following differences: - The DATA2 (IR) channel is removed. So is the gain setting for it. This should very much simplify the gain logic. - Some of the gains were removed. - The 5ms integration time was removed. (The support of 5ms was severely limited on original BU27034NUC too so driver did not support that anyways). - The light sensitivity curves had changed so the lux calculation will be changed. One thing that has _not_ changed though is the part-id :rolleyes: My preferred approach would be to convert the in-tree bu27034 driver to support this new variant. I think it makes sense because: - (I expect) the amount of code to review will be much smaller this way than it would be if current driver was completely removed, and new one submitted. - This change will not break existing users as there should not be such (judging the statement that the original BU27034NUC was cancelled before it was sold "en masse"). It sure is possible to drop the existing driver and submit a new one too, but I think it will be quite a bit more work with no strong benefits. I expect the rest of the information to be shared to me during the next couple of days, and I hope I can start testing the driver immediately when I get the HW. My question is, do you prefer the changes to be sent as one "support BU27034ANUC patch, of would you rather see changes splitted to pieces like: "adapt lux calculation to support BU27034ANUC", "remove obsolete DATA2 channel", "remove unsupported gains"...? Furthermore, the DT compatible was just rohm,bu27034 and did not include the ending "nuc". Should that compatible be removed and a new one with "anuc"-suffix be added to denote the new sensor? I am truly sorry for all the unnecessary reviewing and maintenance work you guys did. I can assure you I didn't go through it for fun either - even if the coding was fun :) I guess even the "upstream early" process has it's weaknesses... Yours, -- Matti
On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 14:38:38 +0200 Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi deee Ho peeps! > > On 3/31/23 15:40, Matti Vaittinen wrote: > > Support ROHM BU27034 ALS sensor > > > > This series adds support for ROHM BU27034 Ambient Light Sensor. > > I have one word for all of you who worked to get the ROHM BU27034NUC > driver working in upstream. > > Meh. > > I just found out that the BU27034 sensor which was developed when I > wrote this driver had some "manufacturing issues"... The full model > number was BU27034NUC. The has been cancelled, and, as far as I know, no > significant number of those were manufactured. ouch. We all have some cancelled products in our history! When that happens I usually go eat cake and moan at anyone standing near by. At least this seems like there will be some direct use of the work done (sometimes you just have to list the things learnt along the way). > > The issues of BU27034NUC were solved, and new model BU27034ANUC was > developed and is available in the ROHM catalog. > > I did also learn that this new model BU27034ANUC is _not_ functionally > equivalent to the BU27034NUC. I am currently clarifying all the > differences, and I have requested the HQ to send me a sample for driver > development and verification work. > > This far I've come to know at least following differences: > > - The DATA2 (IR) channel is removed. So is the gain setting for it. This > should very much simplify the gain logic. > - Some of the gains were removed. > - The 5ms integration time was removed. (The support of 5ms was severely > limited on original BU27034NUC too so driver did not support that > anyways). > - The light sensitivity curves had changed so the lux calculation will > be changed. > > One thing that has _not_ changed though is the part-id :rolleyes: *sigh* Not even a version number? Even unreleased / prototype parts should have different IDs if anything in the interface changed. > > My preferred approach would be to convert the in-tree bu27034 driver to > support this new variant. I think it makes sense because: > - (I expect) the amount of code to review will be much smaller this way > than it would be if current driver was completely removed, and new one > submitted. > - This change will not break existing users as there should not be such > (judging the statement that the original BU27034NUC was cancelled > before it was sold "en masse"). > > It sure is possible to drop the existing driver and submit a new one > too, but I think it will be quite a bit more work with no strong benefits. Agreed, modify the existing driver. Just needs a clear statement in patch descriptions that the original part is not expected to be in the wild. > > I expect the rest of the information to be shared to me during the next > couple of days, and I hope I can start testing the driver immediately > when I get the HW. > > My question is, do you prefer the changes to be sent as one "support > BU27034ANUC patch, of would you rather see changes splitted to pieces > like: "adapt lux calculation to support BU27034ANUC", "remove obsolete > DATA2 channel", "remove unsupported gains"...? Furthermore, the DT > compatible was just rohm,bu27034 and did not include the ending "nuc". Separate patches preferred for each feature / type of change. Mostly they'll hopefully be trivial to review. > Should that compatible be removed and a new one with "anuc"-suffix be > added to denote the new sensor? Yes. The binding patch in particular will need a really clear statement that we believe there are none in products in the wild. > > I am truly sorry for all the unnecessary reviewing and maintenance work > you guys did. I can assure you I didn't go through it for fun either - > even if the coding was fun :) I guess even the "upstream early" process > has it's weaknesses... True enough. It's always 'interesting' to not know if / when a product you've upstreamed code for will launch. Jonathan > > Yours, > -- Matti >
On 3/9/24 19:50, Jonathan Cameron wrote: > On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 14:38:38 +0200 > Matti Vaittinen <mazziesaccount@gmail.com> wrote: >> I just found out that the BU27034 sensor which was developed when I >> wrote this driver had some "manufacturing issues"... The full model >> number was BU27034NUC. The has been cancelled, and, as far as I know, no >> significant number of those were manufactured. > > ouch. We all have some cancelled products in our history! > When that happens I usually go eat cake and moan at anyone standing > near by. I like that approach :) Luckily, this was just a sensor. It was much more painful back in the Nokia when some of the BTS variants were cancelled. It flushed 'man years' of work instead of 'man months' :) > At least this seems like there will be some direct use of > the work done (sometimes you just have to list the things learnt along > the way). Yes! It wasn't all wasted effort! >> One thing that has _not_ changed though is the part-id :rolleyes: > > *sigh* Not even a version number? No. > Even unreleased / prototype parts should have > different IDs if anything in the interface changed. ...tell me about it... Well, I tried to send feedback - but I am not convinced this is not happening again. I think I could fill a book with feedback which has had not been listened in the past - but who knows, occasionally feedback also works. So, we can keep trying. :) >> My preferred approach would be to convert the in-tree bu27034 driver to >> support this new variant. I think it makes sense because: >> - (I expect) the amount of code to review will be much smaller this way >> than it would be if current driver was completely removed, and new one >> submitted. >> - This change will not break existing users as there should not be such >> (judging the statement that the original BU27034NUC was cancelled >> before it was sold "en masse"). >> >> It sure is possible to drop the existing driver and submit a new one >> too, but I think it will be quite a bit more work with no strong benefits. > > Agreed, modify the existing driver. Just needs a clear statement in > patch descriptions that the original part is not expected to be in the wild. ack. >> I expect the rest of the information to be shared to me during the next >> couple of days, and I hope I can start testing the driver immediately >> when I get the HW. >> >> My question is, do you prefer the changes to be sent as one "support >> BU27034ANUC patch, of would you rather see changes splitted to pieces >> like: "adapt lux calculation to support BU27034ANUC", "remove obsolete >> DATA2 channel", "remove unsupported gains"...? Furthermore, the DT >> compatible was just rohm,bu27034 and did not include the ending "nuc". > > Separate patches preferred for each feature / type of change. Mostly > they'll hopefully be trivial to review. I've drafted most of the changes and it seems they are more or less trivial. I've not yet received the hardware so the changes are 100% untested though. >> Should that compatible be removed and a new one with "anuc"-suffix be >> added to denote the new sensor? > > Yes. The binding patch in particular will need a really clear statement > that we believe there are none in products in the wild. ack. >> I am truly sorry for all the unnecessary reviewing and maintenance work >> you guys did. I can assure you I didn't go through it for fun either - >> even if the coding was fun :) I guess even the "upstream early" process >> has it's weaknesses... > > True enough. It's always 'interesting' to not know if / when a product > you've upstreamed code for will launch. Indeed. Almost as interesting as having patches for a new product in your "to be sent" - folder for 3 years waiting for the product to launch to get permission to send the patches... Don't we all love maintaining off-tree patches when we have that creeping feeling the patches will never be allowed to be sent...? Asking for a friend :rolleyes: Yours, -- Matti