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[v2,0/3] Remove dead linux-mips.org references

Message ID 20210625110419.24503-1-lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com (mailing list archive)
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Lukas Bulwahn June 25, 2021, 11:04 a.m. UTC
Dear all,

on 2021-02-22, I reported that:

The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
reachable anymore.

In the discussion of that patch series, Kurt Martin promised to get
linux-mips.org back online. Four months have now passed and the webpage is
still not back online. So, I suggest to remove these dead references.
Probably, we do not lose much if the linux-mips.org webpage never comes back.

The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
reachable anymore.

Here is in more detail what I did to create this patch series:

First, I updated all sections in MAINTAINERS for references with linux-mips.org.
Then, I also quickly scanned through the whole git tree for linux-mips.org
references, and step-wise filtered out obvious copyright holder lines and
references to old email addresses.

  git ls-files | xargs grep "linux-mips.org" | \
    grep -v -i "Copyright" | grep -v -i "MODULE_AUTHOR" | grep -v -i "written" | \
    grep -v "Ralf" | grep -v "Maciej" | grep -v "Yoichi" | grep -v "Ladislav"

I removed dead references or replaced them with their living counterparts if
available. However, these two cases remain and somebody might want to have a look:

  1. case in ./arch/mips/include/asm/page.h:

<snip>
/*
 * RELOC_HIDE was originally added by 6007b903dfe5f1d13e0c711ac2894bdd4a61b1ad
 * (lmo) rsp. 8431fd094d625b94d364fe393076ccef88e6ce18 (kernel.org).  The
 * discussion can be found in
 * https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/a2ebde260608230500o3407b108hc03debb9da6e62c@mail.gmail.com
 *
 * It is unclear if the misscompilations mentioned in
 * https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1281303490-390-1-git-send-email-namhyung@gmail.com
 * also affect MIPS so we keep this one until GCC 3.x has been retired
 * before we can apply https://patchwork.linux-mips.org/patch/1541/
 */
</snip>

  Decision: Keep as is. Although GCC 3.x is long retired, it is unclear what
  https://patchwork.linux-mips.org/patch/1541/ is and if it has been already
  applied or not.
  Question: does anyone know how to identify this patch?


  2. case in ./drivers/parport/parport_ip32.c:

    linux-mips.org tree is referred to in an old To do item:

<snip>
 * To do:
 *
 *      Fully implement ECP mode.
 *      EPP and ECP mode need to be tested.  I currently do not own any
 *      peripheral supporting these extended mode, and cannot test them.
 *      If DMA mode works well, decide if support for PIO FIFO modes should be
 *      dropped.
 *      Use the io{read,write} family functions when they become available in
 *      the linux-mips.org tree.  Note: the MIPS specific functions readsb()
 *      and writesb() are to be translated by ioread8_rep() and iowrite8_rep()
 *      respectively.
</snip>

  Decision: Keep as is; anyone that wants to follow up on this will probably
  understand that the reference is outdated anyway.


Please comment on these clean-up patches on this administrative topic.

Patch set applies cleanly on next-20210624.


Changes since v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210222161905.1153-1-lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com/
  Patches
    "arch: mips: update references to current linux-mips list"
    "MIPS: SGI-IP27: fix spelling in Copyright"
  has been already applied.

Lukas Bulwahn (3):
  MAINTAINERS: mark sections from Ralf Baechle orphan
  MAINTAINERS: remove linux-mips.org references
  arch: mips: remove dead references

 MAINTAINERS                   | 20 ++++++--------------
 arch/mips/Kconfig             |  8 +-------
 arch/mips/jazz/Kconfig        | 12 +++---------
 tools/include/nolibc/nolibc.h |  3 +--
 4 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)

Comments

Maciej W. Rozycki June 25, 2021, 3:49 p.m. UTC | #1
[Adding Ralf and Kurt to the list of recipients.]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:

> The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
> webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
> reachable anymore.

 Well, mail forwarding has now been set up for my old LMO address, and so 
I believe for Ralf's.  Any other resources remain unavailable.

> In the discussion of that patch series, Kurt Martin promised to get
> linux-mips.org back online. Four months have now passed and the webpage is
> still not back online. So, I suggest to remove these dead references.
> Probably, we do not lose much if the linux-mips.org webpage never comes back.

 While most resources have been migrated I think the wiki was unique and 
valuable.  Perhaps we could preserve read-only references to archive.org 
dumps?  It's not clear to me what our policy is here though, if any.

> The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
> webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
> reachable anymore.

 Let's see if the copy of this message intended for Ralf bounces.

> I removed dead references or replaced them with their living counterparts if
> available. However, these two cases remain and somebody might want to have a look:
> 
>   1. case in ./arch/mips/include/asm/page.h:
> 
> <snip>
> /*
>  * RELOC_HIDE was originally added by 6007b903dfe5f1d13e0c711ac2894bdd4a61b1ad
>  * (lmo) rsp. 8431fd094d625b94d364fe393076ccef88e6ce18 (kernel.org).  The
>  * discussion can be found in
>  * https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/a2ebde260608230500o3407b108hc03debb9da6e62c@mail.gmail.com
>  *
>  * It is unclear if the misscompilations mentioned in
>  * https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1281303490-390-1-git-send-email-namhyung@gmail.com
>  * also affect MIPS so we keep this one until GCC 3.x has been retired
>  * before we can apply https://patchwork.linux-mips.org/patch/1541/
>  */
> </snip>
> 
>   Decision: Keep as is. Although GCC 3.x is long retired, it is unclear what
>   https://patchwork.linux-mips.org/patch/1541/ is and if it has been already
>   applied or not.
>   Question: does anyone know how to identify this patch?

 It's on archive.org, marked rejected:

<https://web.archive.org/web/20180829170737/https://patchwork.linux-mips.org/patch/1541/>

or alternatively: <https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/210989/> (with 
no proper status).  Given the note it might make sense to re-evaluate the 
patch.  Thanks for the heads-up!

>   2. case in ./drivers/parport/parport_ip32.c:
> 
>     linux-mips.org tree is referred to in an old To do item:
> 
> <snip>
>  * To do:
>  *
>  *      Fully implement ECP mode.
>  *      EPP and ECP mode need to be tested.  I currently do not own any
>  *      peripheral supporting these extended mode, and cannot test them.
>  *      If DMA mode works well, decide if support for PIO FIFO modes should be
>  *      dropped.
>  *      Use the io{read,write} family functions when they become available in
>  *      the linux-mips.org tree.  Note: the MIPS specific functions readsb()
>  *      and writesb() are to be translated by ioread8_rep() and iowrite8_rep()
>  *      respectively.
> </snip>
> 
>   Decision: Keep as is; anyone that wants to follow up on this will probably
>   understand that the reference is outdated anyway.

 Note that a copy of the LMO tree remains available online at: 
<git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ralf/linux.git>, so any 
references or git commit IDs are reachable.  Perhaps it would be good to 
add an actual reference somewhere though.

  Maciej
Joe Perches June 26, 2021, 11:45 p.m. UTC | #2
On Fri, 2021-06-25 at 17:49 +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> [Adding Ralf and Kurt to the list of recipients.]
> 
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> 
> > The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
> > webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
> > reachable anymore.
> 
>  Well, mail forwarding has now been set up for my old LMO address, and so 
> I believe for Ralf's.  Any other resources remain unavailable.
> 
> > In the discussion of that patch series, Kurt Martin promised to get
> > linux-mips.org back online. Four months have now passed and the webpage is
> > still not back online. So, I suggest to remove these dead references.
> > Probably, we do not lose much if the linux-mips.org webpage never comes back.
> 
>  While most resources have been migrated I think the wiki was unique and 
> valuable.  Perhaps we could preserve read-only references to archive.org 
> dumps?  It's not clear to me what our policy is here though, if any.

Perhaps better to wholesale copy the content and keep it
around somewhere else like lore.kernel.org.
Jiaxun Yang June 28, 2021, 1:28 a.m. UTC | #3
在 2021/6/27 上午7:45, Joe Perches 写道:
> On Fri, 2021-06-25 at 17:49 +0200, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
>> [Adding Ralf and Kurt to the list of recipients.]
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
>>
>>> The domain lookup for linux-mips.org fails for quite some time now. Hence,
>>> webpages, the patchwork instance and Ralf Baechle's email there is not
>>> reachable anymore.
>>   Well, mail forwarding has now been set up for my old LMO address, and so
>> I believe for Ralf's.  Any other resources remain unavailable.
>>
>>> In the discussion of that patch series, Kurt Martin promised to get
>>> linux-mips.org back online. Four months have now passed and the webpage is
>>> still not back online. So, I suggest to remove these dead references.
>>> Probably, we do not lose much if the linux-mips.org webpage never comes back.
>>   While most resources have been migrated I think the wiki was unique and
>> valuable.  Perhaps we could preserve read-only references to archive.org
>> dumps?  It's not clear to me what our policy is here though, if any.
> Perhaps better to wholesale copy the content and keep it
> around somewhere else like lore.kernel.org.

I made a request to kernel.org infrastructure team to create a wiki site 
for linux-mips project

to restore contents from old linux-mips.org back in April. I think that 
would be another approach

as I saw PA-RISC migrated their wiki site to kernel.org as well.


Thanks.


- Jiaxun


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