Message ID | 20250414014505.20477-1-dongsheng.yang@linux.dev (mailing list archive) |
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Headers | show |
Series | pcache: Persistent Memory Cache for Block Devices | expand |
Dongsheng Yang wrote: > Hi All, > > This patchset introduces a new Linux block layer module called > **pcache**, which uses persistent memory (pmem) as a cache for block > devices. > > Originally, this functionality was implemented as `cbd_cache` within the > CBD (CXL Block Device). However, after thorough consideration, > it became clear that the cache design was not limited to CBD's pmem > device or infrastructure. Instead, it is broadly applicable to **any** > persistent memory device that supports DAX. Therefore, I have split > pcache out of cbd and refactored it into a standalone module. > > Although Intel's Optane product line has been discontinued, the Storage > Class Memory (SCM) field continues to evolve. For instance, Numemory > recently launched their Optane successor product, the NM101 SCM: > https://www.techpowerup.com/332914/numemory-releases-optane-successor-nm101-storage-class-memory > > ### About pcache > > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Feature | pcache | bcache | dm-writecache | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | pmem access method | DAX | bio | DAX | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Write Latency (4K randwrite) | ~7us | ~20us | ~7us | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Concurrency | Multi-tree per backend, | Shared global index tree, | single indexing tree and | > | | fully utilizing pmem | | global wc_lock | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | IOPS (4K randwrite 32 numjobs)| 2107K | 352K | 283K | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Read Cache Support | YES | YES | NO | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Deployment Flexibility | No reformat needed | Requires formatting backend | Depends on dm framework, | > | | | devices | less intuitive to deploy | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Writeback Model | log-structure; preserves | no guarantee between | no guarantee writeback | > | | backing crash-consistency; | flush order and app IO order;| ordering | > | | important for checkpoint | may lose ordering in backing | | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ > | Data Integrity | CRC on both metadata and | CRC on metadata only | No CRC | > | | data (data crc is optional) | | | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+ Thanks for making the comparison chart. The immediate question this raises is why not add "multi-tree per backend", "log structured writeback", "readcache", and "CRC" support to dm-writecache? device-mapper is everywhere, has a long track record, and enhancing it immediately engages a community of folks in this space. Then reviewers can spend the time purely on the enhancements and not reviewing a new block device-management stacking ABI.
On 4/15/25 12:00 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > Thanks for making the comparison chart. The immediate question this > raises is why not add "multi-tree per backend", "log structured > writeback", "readcache", and "CRC" support to dm-writecache? > device-mapper is everywhere, has a long track record, and enhancing it > immediately engages a community of folks in this space. Strongly agree.
On 2025/4/16 9:04, Jens Axboe wrote: > On 4/15/25 12:00 PM, Dan Williams wrote: >> Thanks for making the comparison chart. The immediate question this >> raises is why not add "multi-tree per backend", "log structured >> writeback", "readcache", and "CRC" support to dm-writecache? >> device-mapper is everywhere, has a long track record, and enhancing it >> immediately engages a community of folks in this space. > Strongly agree. Hi Dan and Jens, Thanks for your reply, that's a good question. 1. Why not optimize within dm-writecache? From my perspective, the design goal of dm-writecache is to be a minimal write cache. It achieves caching by dividing the cache device into n blocks, each managed by a wc_entry, using a very simple management mechanism. On top of this design, it's quite difficult to implement features like multi-tree structures, CRC, or log-structured writeback. Moreover, adding such optimizations—especially a read cache—would deviate from the original semantics of dm-writecache. So, we didn't consider optimizing dm-writecache to meet our goals. 2. Why not optimize within bcache or dm-cache? As mentioned above, dm-writecache is essentially a minimal write cache. So, why not build on bcache or dm-cache, which are more complete caching systems? The truth is, it's also quite difficult. These systems were designed with traditional SSDs/NVMe in mind, and many of their design assumptions no longer hold true in the context of PMEM. Every design targets a specific scenario, which is why, even with dm-cache available, dm-writecache emerged to support DAX-capable PMEM devices. 3. Then why not implement a full PMEM cache within the dm framework? In high-performance IO scenarios—especially with PMEM hardware—adding an extra DM layer in the IO stack is often unnecessary. For example, DM performs a bio clone before calling __map_bio(clone) to invoke the target operation, which introduces overhead. Thank you again for the suggestion. I absolutely agree that leveraging existing frameworks would be helpful in terms of code review, and merging. I, more than anyone, hope more people can help review the code or join in this work. However, I believe that in the long run, building a standalone pcache module is a better choice. Thanx Dongsheng >