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[v1,2/9] docs: firmware-guide: ACPI: Clarify ACPI bus concepts

Message ID 20230925144842.586829-3-michal.wilczynski@intel.com (mailing list archive)
State Superseded
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Series Replace acpi_driver with platform_driver | expand

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Wilczynski, Michal Sept. 25, 2023, 2:48 p.m. UTC
Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.

Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
---
 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)

Comments

Rafael J. Wysocki Oct. 5, 2023, 5:57 p.m. UTC | #1
On Monday, September 25, 2023 4:48:35 PM CEST Michal Wilczynski wrote:
> Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
> enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
> implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
> driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
> ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.
> 
> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
> --- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> @@ -64,6 +64,19 @@ If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>  from ACPI tables.
>  
> +ACPI bus
> +====================
> +
> +Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
> +devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
> +drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
> +platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
> +and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
> +be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
> +information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
> +ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
> +the system.
> +
>  DMA support
>  ===========

I rewrote the above entirely, so here's a new patch to replace this one:

---
From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/9] ACPI: docs: enumeration: Clarify ACPI bus concepts

In some cases, ACPI drivers are implemented as a way to manage devices
enumerated with the help of the platform firmware through ACPI.

This might be confusing, since the preferred way to implement a driver
for a device that cannot be enumerated natively, is a platform
driver, as stated in the documentation.

Clarify relationships between ACPI device objects, platform devices and
ACPI Namespace entries.

Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Co-developed-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
---
 Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst |   43 ++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)

Index: linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
===================================================================
--- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
+++ linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
@@ -64,6 +64,49 @@ If the driver needs to perform more comp
 configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
 from ACPI tables.
 
+ACPI device objects
+===================
+
+Generally speaking, there are two categories of devices in a system in which
+ACPI is used as an interface between the platform firmware and the OS: Devices
+that can be discovered and enumerated natively, through a protocol defined for
+the specific bus that they are on (for example, configuration space in PCI),
+without the platform firmware assistance, and devices that need to be described
+by the platform firmware so that they can be discovered.  Still, for any device
+known to the platform firmware, regardless of which category it falls into,
+there can be a corresponding ACPI device object in the ACPI Namespace in which
+case the Linux kernel will create a struct acpi_device object based on it for
+that device.
+
+Those struct acpi_device objects are never used for binding drivers to natively
+discoverable devices, because they are represented by other types of device
+objects (for example, struct pci_dev for PCI devices) that are bound to by
+device drivers (the corresponding struct acpi_device object is then used as
+an additional source of information on the configuration of the given device).
+Moreover, the core ACPI device enumeration code creates struct platform_device
+objects for the majority of devices that are discovered and enumerated with the
+help of the platform firmware and those platform device objects can be bound to
+by platform drivers in direct analogy with the natively enumerable devices
+case.  Therefore it is logically inconsistent and so generally invalid to bind
+drivers to struct acpi_device objects, including drivers for devices that are
+discovered with the help of the platform firmware.
+
+Historically, ACPI drivers that bound directly to struct acpi_device objects
+were implemented for some devices enumerated with the help of the platform
+firmware, but this is not recommended for any new drivers.  As explained above,
+platform device objects are created for those devices as a rule (with a few
+exceptions that are not relevant here) and so platform drivers should be used
+for handling them, even though the corresponding ACPI device objects are the
+only source of device configuration information in that case.
+
+For every device having a corresponding struct acpi_device object, the pointer
+to it is returned by the ACPI_COMPANION() macro, so it is always possible to
+get to the device configuration information stored in the ACPI device object
+this way.  Accordingly, struct acpi_device can be regarded as a part of the
+interface between the kernel and the ACPI Namespace, whereas device objects of
+other types (for example, struct pci_dev or struct platform_device) are used
+for interacting with the rest of the system.
+
 DMA support
 ===========
Wilczynski, Michal Oct. 5, 2023, 6:28 p.m. UTC | #2
On 10/5/2023 7:57 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 4:48:35 PM CEST Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>> Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
>> enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
>> implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
>> driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
>> ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> @@ -64,6 +64,19 @@ If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>>  from ACPI tables.
>>  
>> +ACPI bus
>> +====================
>> +
>> +Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
>> +devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
>> +drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
>> +platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
>> +and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
>> +be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
>> +information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
>> +ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
>> +the system.
>> +
>>  DMA support
>>  ===========
> I rewrote the above entirely, so here's a new patch to replace this one:
>
> ---
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> Subject: [PATCH v2 2/9] ACPI: docs: enumeration: Clarify ACPI bus concepts
>
> In some cases, ACPI drivers are implemented as a way to manage devices
> enumerated with the help of the platform firmware through ACPI.
>
> This might be confusing, since the preferred way to implement a driver
> for a device that cannot be enumerated natively, is a platform
> driver, as stated in the documentation.
>
> Clarify relationships between ACPI device objects, platform devices and
> ACPI Namespace entries.
>
> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
> Co-developed-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst |   43 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
>
> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> @@ -64,6 +64,49 @@ If the driver needs to perform more comp
>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>  from ACPI tables.
>  
> +ACPI device objects
> +===================
> +
> +Generally speaking, there are two categories of devices in a system in which
> +ACPI is used as an interface between the platform firmware and the OS: Devices
> +that can be discovered and enumerated natively, through a protocol defined for
> +the specific bus that they are on (for example, configuration space in PCI),
> +without the platform firmware assistance, and devices that need to be described
> +by the platform firmware so that they can be discovered.  Still, for any device
> +known to the platform firmware, regardless of which category it falls into,
> +there can be a corresponding ACPI device object in the ACPI Namespace in which
> +case the Linux kernel will create a struct acpi_device object based on it for
> +that device.
> +
> +Those struct acpi_device objects are never used for binding drivers to natively
> +discoverable devices, because they are represented by other types of device
> +objects (for example, struct pci_dev for PCI devices) that are bound to by
> +device drivers (the corresponding struct acpi_device object is then used as
> +an additional source of information on the configuration of the given device).
> +Moreover, the core ACPI device enumeration code creates struct platform_device
> +objects for the majority of devices that are discovered and enumerated with the
> +help of the platform firmware and those platform device objects can be bound to
> +by platform drivers in direct analogy with the natively enumerable devices
> +case.  Therefore it is logically inconsistent and so generally invalid to bind
> +drivers to struct acpi_device objects, including drivers for devices that are
> +discovered with the help of the platform firmware.
> +
> +Historically, ACPI drivers that bound directly to struct acpi_device objects
> +were implemented for some devices enumerated with the help of the platform
> +firmware, but this is not recommended for any new drivers.  As explained above,
> +platform device objects are created for those devices as a rule (with a few
> +exceptions that are not relevant here) and so platform drivers should be used
> +for handling them, even though the corresponding ACPI device objects are the
> +only source of device configuration information in that case.
> +
> +For every device having a corresponding struct acpi_device object, the pointer
> +to it is returned by the ACPI_COMPANION() macro, so it is always possible to
> +get to the device configuration information stored in the ACPI device object
> +this way.  Accordingly, struct acpi_device can be regarded as a part of the
> +interface between the kernel and the ACPI Namespace, whereas device objects of
> +other types (for example, struct pci_dev or struct platform_device) are used
> +for interacting with the rest of the system.
> +
>  DMA support
>  ===========

Thanks a lot !
Looks very good, will include this in next revision.

Michał

>  
>
>
>
Wilczynski, Michal Oct. 5, 2023, 6:58 p.m. UTC | #3
On 10/5/2023 8:28 PM, Wilczynski, Michal wrote:
>
> On 10/5/2023 7:57 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 4:48:35 PM CEST Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>>> Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
>>> enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
>>> implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
>>> driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
>>> ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>> index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>> +++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>> @@ -64,6 +64,19 @@ If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
>>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>>>  from ACPI tables.
>>>  
>>> +ACPI bus
>>> +====================
>>> +
>>> +Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
>>> +devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
>>> +drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
>>> +platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
>>> +and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
>>> +be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
>>> +information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
>>> +ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
>>> +the system.
>>> +
>>>  DMA support
>>>  ===========
>> I rewrote the above entirely, so here's a new patch to replace this one:
>>
>> ---
>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>> Subject: [PATCH v2 2/9] ACPI: docs: enumeration: Clarify ACPI bus concepts
>>
>> In some cases, ACPI drivers are implemented as a way to manage devices
>> enumerated with the help of the platform firmware through ACPI.
>>
>> This might be confusing, since the preferred way to implement a driver
>> for a device that cannot be enumerated natively, is a platform
>> driver, as stated in the documentation.
>>
>> Clarify relationships between ACPI device objects, platform devices and
>> ACPI Namespace entries.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
>> Co-developed-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst |   43 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
>>
>> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> ===================================================================
>> --- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>> @@ -64,6 +64,49 @@ If the driver needs to perform more comp
>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>>  from ACPI tables.
>>  
>> +ACPI device objects
>> +===================
>> +
>> +Generally speaking, there are two categories of devices in a system in which
>> +ACPI is used as an interface between the platform firmware and the OS: Devices
>> +that can be discovered and enumerated natively, through a protocol defined for
>> +the specific bus that they are on (for example, configuration space in PCI),
>> +without the platform firmware assistance, and devices that need to be described
>> +by the platform firmware so that they can be discovered.  Still, for any device
>> +known to the platform firmware, regardless of which category it falls into,
>> +there can be a corresponding ACPI device object in the ACPI Namespace in which
>> +case the Linux kernel will create a struct acpi_device object based on it for
>> +that device.
>> +
>> +Those struct acpi_device objects are never used for binding drivers to natively
>> +discoverable devices, because they are represented by other types of device
>> +objects (for example, struct pci_dev for PCI devices) that are bound to by
>> +device drivers (the corresponding struct acpi_device object is then used as
>> +an additional source of information on the configuration of the given device).
>> +Moreover, the core ACPI device enumeration code creates struct platform_device
>> +objects for the majority of devices that are discovered and enumerated with the
>> +help of the platform firmware and those platform device objects can be bound to
>> +by platform drivers in direct analogy with the natively enumerable devices
>> +case.  Therefore it is logically inconsistent and so generally invalid to bind
>> +drivers to struct acpi_device objects, including drivers for devices that are
>> +discovered with the help of the platform firmware.
>> +
>> +Historically, ACPI drivers that bound directly to struct acpi_device objects
>> +were implemented for some devices enumerated with the help of the platform
>> +firmware, but this is not recommended for any new drivers.  As explained above,
>> +platform device objects are created for those devices as a rule (with a few
>> +exceptions that are not relevant here) and so platform drivers should be used
>> +for handling them, even though the corresponding ACPI device objects are the
>> +only source of device configuration information in that case.
>> +
>> +For every device having a corresponding struct acpi_device object, the pointer
>> +to it is returned by the ACPI_COMPANION() macro, so it is always possible to
>> +get to the device configuration information stored in the ACPI device object
>> +this way.  Accordingly, struct acpi_device can be regarded as a part of the
>> +interface between the kernel and the ACPI Namespace, whereas device objects of
>> +other types (for example, struct pci_dev or struct platform_device) are used
>> +for interacting with the rest of the system.
>> +
>>  DMA support
>>  ===========
> Thanks a lot !
> Looks very good, will include this in next revision.
>
> Michał

Aww, forgot that you can also just apply it yourself, so I can just fetch and
rebase. Whichever version you prefer is fine with me :-)


>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
Rafael J. Wysocki Oct. 6, 2023, 3:36 p.m. UTC | #4
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 10:39 PM Wilczynski, Michal
<michal.wilczynski@intel.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2023 8:28 PM, Wilczynski, Michal wrote:
> >
> > On 10/5/2023 7:57 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 25, 2023 4:48:35 PM CEST Michal Wilczynski wrote:
> >>> Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
> >>> enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
> >>> implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
> >>> driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
> >>> ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.
> >>>
> >>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
> >>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >>> index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
> >>> --- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >>> @@ -64,6 +64,19 @@ If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
> >>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
> >>>  from ACPI tables.
> >>>
> >>> +ACPI bus
> >>> +====================
> >>> +
> >>> +Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
> >>> +devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
> >>> +drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
> >>> +platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
> >>> +and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
> >>> +be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
> >>> +information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
> >>> +ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
> >>> +the system.
> >>> +
> >>>  DMA support
> >>>  ===========
> >> I rewrote the above entirely, so here's a new patch to replace this one:
> >>
> >> ---
> >> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> >> Subject: [PATCH v2 2/9] ACPI: docs: enumeration: Clarify ACPI bus concepts
> >>
> >> In some cases, ACPI drivers are implemented as a way to manage devices
> >> enumerated with the help of the platform firmware through ACPI.
> >>
> >> This might be confusing, since the preferred way to implement a driver
> >> for a device that cannot be enumerated natively, is a platform
> >> driver, as stated in the documentation.
> >>
> >> Clarify relationships between ACPI device objects, platform devices and
> >> ACPI Namespace entries.
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
> >> Co-developed-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> >> ---
> >>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst |   43 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >> ===================================================================
> >> --- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
> >> @@ -64,6 +64,49 @@ If the driver needs to perform more comp
> >>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
> >>  from ACPI tables.
> >>
> >> +ACPI device objects
> >> +===================
> >> +
> >> +Generally speaking, there are two categories of devices in a system in which
> >> +ACPI is used as an interface between the platform firmware and the OS: Devices
> >> +that can be discovered and enumerated natively, through a protocol defined for
> >> +the specific bus that they are on (for example, configuration space in PCI),
> >> +without the platform firmware assistance, and devices that need to be described
> >> +by the platform firmware so that they can be discovered.  Still, for any device
> >> +known to the platform firmware, regardless of which category it falls into,
> >> +there can be a corresponding ACPI device object in the ACPI Namespace in which
> >> +case the Linux kernel will create a struct acpi_device object based on it for
> >> +that device.
> >> +
> >> +Those struct acpi_device objects are never used for binding drivers to natively
> >> +discoverable devices, because they are represented by other types of device
> >> +objects (for example, struct pci_dev for PCI devices) that are bound to by
> >> +device drivers (the corresponding struct acpi_device object is then used as
> >> +an additional source of information on the configuration of the given device).
> >> +Moreover, the core ACPI device enumeration code creates struct platform_device
> >> +objects for the majority of devices that are discovered and enumerated with the
> >> +help of the platform firmware and those platform device objects can be bound to
> >> +by platform drivers in direct analogy with the natively enumerable devices
> >> +case.  Therefore it is logically inconsistent and so generally invalid to bind
> >> +drivers to struct acpi_device objects, including drivers for devices that are
> >> +discovered with the help of the platform firmware.
> >> +
> >> +Historically, ACPI drivers that bound directly to struct acpi_device objects
> >> +were implemented for some devices enumerated with the help of the platform
> >> +firmware, but this is not recommended for any new drivers.  As explained above,
> >> +platform device objects are created for those devices as a rule (with a few
> >> +exceptions that are not relevant here) and so platform drivers should be used
> >> +for handling them, even though the corresponding ACPI device objects are the
> >> +only source of device configuration information in that case.
> >> +
> >> +For every device having a corresponding struct acpi_device object, the pointer
> >> +to it is returned by the ACPI_COMPANION() macro, so it is always possible to
> >> +get to the device configuration information stored in the ACPI device object
> >> +this way.  Accordingly, struct acpi_device can be regarded as a part of the
> >> +interface between the kernel and the ACPI Namespace, whereas device objects of
> >> +other types (for example, struct pci_dev or struct platform_device) are used
> >> +for interacting with the rest of the system.
> >> +
> >>  DMA support
> >>  ===========
> > Thanks a lot !
> > Looks very good, will include this in next revision.
> >
> > Michał
>
> Aww, forgot that you can also just apply it yourself, so I can just fetch and
> rebase. Whichever version you prefer is fine with me :-)

So I went ahead and queued up my versions of patches [1-2/9].  They
are present in the acpi-bus branch in linux-pm.git (based on 6.6-rc4)
and in the bleeding-edge branch (I'll merge acpi-bus into linux-next
next week if all goes well).
Wilczynski, Michal Oct. 6, 2023, 5:29 p.m. UTC | #5
On 10/6/2023 5:36 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 10:39 PM Wilczynski, Michal
> <michal.wilczynski@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2023 8:28 PM, Wilczynski, Michal wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2023 7:57 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 4:48:35 PM CEST Michal Wilczynski wrote:
>>>>> Some devices implement ACPI driver as a way to manage devices
>>>>> enumerated by the ACPI. This might be confusing as a preferred way to
>>>>> implement a driver for devices not connected to any bus is a platform
>>>>> driver, as stated in the documentation. Clarify relationships between
>>>>> ACPI device, platform device and ACPI entries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>>> index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
>>>>> --- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>>> @@ -64,6 +64,19 @@ If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
>>>>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>>>>>  from ACPI tables.
>>>>>
>>>>> +ACPI bus
>>>>> +====================
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
>>>>> +devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
>>>>> +drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
>>>>> +platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
>>>>> +and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
>>>>> +be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
>>>>> +information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
>>>>> +ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
>>>>> +the system.
>>>>> +
>>>>>  DMA support
>>>>>  ===========
>>>> I rewrote the above entirely, so here's a new patch to replace this one:
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>> Subject: [PATCH v2 2/9] ACPI: docs: enumeration: Clarify ACPI bus concepts
>>>>
>>>> In some cases, ACPI drivers are implemented as a way to manage devices
>>>> enumerated with the help of the platform firmware through ACPI.
>>>>
>>>> This might be confusing, since the preferred way to implement a driver
>>>> for a device that cannot be enumerated natively, is a platform
>>>> driver, as stated in the documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Clarify relationships between ACPI device objects, platform devices and
>>>> ACPI Namespace entries.
>>>>
>>>> Suggested-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
>>>> Co-developed-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst |   43 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> Index: linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>> ===================================================================
>>>> --- linux-pm.orig/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>> +++ linux-pm/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
>>>> @@ -64,6 +64,49 @@ If the driver needs to perform more comp
>>>>  configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
>>>>  from ACPI tables.
>>>>
>>>> +ACPI device objects
>>>> +===================
>>>> +
>>>> +Generally speaking, there are two categories of devices in a system in which
>>>> +ACPI is used as an interface between the platform firmware and the OS: Devices
>>>> +that can be discovered and enumerated natively, through a protocol defined for
>>>> +the specific bus that they are on (for example, configuration space in PCI),
>>>> +without the platform firmware assistance, and devices that need to be described
>>>> +by the platform firmware so that they can be discovered.  Still, for any device
>>>> +known to the platform firmware, regardless of which category it falls into,
>>>> +there can be a corresponding ACPI device object in the ACPI Namespace in which
>>>> +case the Linux kernel will create a struct acpi_device object based on it for
>>>> +that device.
>>>> +
>>>> +Those struct acpi_device objects are never used for binding drivers to natively
>>>> +discoverable devices, because they are represented by other types of device
>>>> +objects (for example, struct pci_dev for PCI devices) that are bound to by
>>>> +device drivers (the corresponding struct acpi_device object is then used as
>>>> +an additional source of information on the configuration of the given device).
>>>> +Moreover, the core ACPI device enumeration code creates struct platform_device
>>>> +objects for the majority of devices that are discovered and enumerated with the
>>>> +help of the platform firmware and those platform device objects can be bound to
>>>> +by platform drivers in direct analogy with the natively enumerable devices
>>>> +case.  Therefore it is logically inconsistent and so generally invalid to bind
>>>> +drivers to struct acpi_device objects, including drivers for devices that are
>>>> +discovered with the help of the platform firmware.
>>>> +
>>>> +Historically, ACPI drivers that bound directly to struct acpi_device objects
>>>> +were implemented for some devices enumerated with the help of the platform
>>>> +firmware, but this is not recommended for any new drivers.  As explained above,
>>>> +platform device objects are created for those devices as a rule (with a few
>>>> +exceptions that are not relevant here) and so platform drivers should be used
>>>> +for handling them, even though the corresponding ACPI device objects are the
>>>> +only source of device configuration information in that case.
>>>> +
>>>> +For every device having a corresponding struct acpi_device object, the pointer
>>>> +to it is returned by the ACPI_COMPANION() macro, so it is always possible to
>>>> +get to the device configuration information stored in the ACPI device object
>>>> +this way.  Accordingly, struct acpi_device can be regarded as a part of the
>>>> +interface between the kernel and the ACPI Namespace, whereas device objects of
>>>> +other types (for example, struct pci_dev or struct platform_device) are used
>>>> +for interacting with the rest of the system.
>>>> +
>>>>  DMA support
>>>>  ===========
>>> Thanks a lot !
>>> Looks very good, will include this in next revision.
>>>
>>> Michał
>> Aww, forgot that you can also just apply it yourself, so I can just fetch and
>> rebase. Whichever version you prefer is fine with me :-)
> So I went ahead and queued up my versions of patches [1-2/9].  They
> are present in the acpi-bus branch in linux-pm.git (based on 6.6-rc4)
> and in the bleeding-edge branch (I'll merge acpi-bus into linux-next
> next week if all goes well).

Thanks, great !
Will re-send the rest of the patchset.

Michał

>
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diff --git a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
index 56d9913a3370..f56cc79a9e83 100644
--- a/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
+++ b/Documentation/firmware-guide/acpi/enumeration.rst
@@ -64,6 +64,19 @@  If the driver needs to perform more complex initialization like getting and
 configuring GPIOs it can get its ACPI handle and extract this information
 from ACPI tables.
 
+ACPI bus
+====================
+
+Historically some devices not connected to any bus were represented as ACPI
+devices, and had to implement ACPI driver. This is not a preferred way for new
+drivers. As explained above devices not connected to any bus should implement
+platform driver. ACPI device would be created during enumeration nonetheless,
+and would be accessible through ACPI_COMPANION() macro, and the ACPI handle would
+be accessible through ACPI_HANDLE() macro. ACPI device is meant to describe
+information related to ACPI entry e.g. handle of the ACPI entry. Think -
+ACPI device interfaces with the FW, and the platform device with the rest of
+the system.
+
 DMA support
 ===========