| Message ID | 20240618-docs-patch-msgid-link-v1-1-30555f3f5ad4@linuxfoundation.org (mailing list archive) |
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| State | Superseded |
| Headers | show |
| Series | Documentation: update information for mailing lists | expand |
| Context | Check | Description |
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| netdev/tree_selection | success | Not a local patch |
Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > There have been some changes to the way mailing lists are hosted at > kernel.org, so fix the links that are pointing at the outdated > resources. The change to the documented policy about patch-bombs probably deserves a mention here even though it has been effectively ignored for a while. Otherwise, Acked-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> [..] > diff --git a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > index 5e1fcfad1c4c..fe8616397d63 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst [..] > @@ -243,11 +243,9 @@ linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all patches, but the > volume on that list has caused a number of developers to tune it out. Please > do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated people, though. > > -Many kernel-related lists are hosted on vger.kernel.org; you can find a > -list of them at http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html. There are > -kernel-related lists hosted elsewhere as well, though. > - > -Do not send more than 15 patches at once to the vger mailing lists!!! > +Many kernel-related lists are hosted at kernel.org; you can find a list > +of them at https://subspace.kernel.org. There are kernel-related lists > +hosted elsewhere as well, though. > > Linus Torvalds is the final arbiter of all changes accepted into the > Linux kernel. His e-mail address is <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>. > @@ -866,9 +864,6 @@ Greg Kroah-Hartman, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer". > > <http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/maintainer-06.html> > > -NO!!!! No more huge patch bombs to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org people! > - <https://lore.kernel.org/r/20050711.125305.08322243.davem@davemloft.net> > - > Kernel Documentation/process/coding-style.rst > > Linus Torvalds's mail on the canonical patch format: > > -- > 2.45.2 > >
On 6/18/24 11:42, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > There have been some changes to the way mailing lists are hosted at > kernel.org, so fix the links that are pointing at the outdated > resources. > > Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> > --- > Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 8 ++++---- > Documentation/process/howto.rst | 10 +++++----- > Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst | 5 ++--- > Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst | 5 ++--- > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 15 +++++---------- > 5 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > index 613a01da4717..ef3b116492df 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > @@ -392,13 +392,13 @@ represent a potential hazard to developers, who risk getting buried under a > load of electronic mail, running afoul of the conventions used on the Linux > lists, or both. > > -Most kernel mailing lists are run on vger.kernel.org; the master list can > +Most kernel mailing lists are hosted at kernel.org; the master list can > be found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > + https://subspace.kernel.org > > -There are lists hosted elsewhere, though; a number of them are at > -redhat.com/mailman/listinfo. > +There are lists hosted elsewhere; please check the MAINTAINERS file for > +the list relevant for any particular subsystem. > > The core mailing list for kernel development is, of course, linux-kernel. > This list is an intimidating place to be; volume can reach 500 messages per > diff --git a/Documentation/process/howto.rst b/Documentation/process/howto.rst > index eebda4910a88..9438e03d6f50 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/howto.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/howto.rst > @@ -331,7 +331,7 @@ they need to be integration-tested. For this purpose, a special > testing repository exists into which virtually all subsystem trees are > pulled on an almost daily basis: > > - https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git > + https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git > > This way, the linux-next gives a summary outlook onto what will be > expected to go into the mainline kernel at the next merge period. > @@ -373,12 +373,12 @@ As some of the above documents describe, the majority of the core kernel > developers participate on the Linux Kernel Mailing list. Details on how > to subscribe and unsubscribe from the list can be found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-kernel > + https://subspace.kernel.org/subscribing.html > > There are archives of the mailing list on the web in many different > places. Use a search engine to find these archives. For example: > > - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ > + https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/ > > It is highly recommended that you search the archives about the topic > you want to bring up, before you post it to the list. A lot of things > @@ -393,13 +393,13 @@ groups. > Many of the lists are hosted on kernel.org. Information on them can be > found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > + https://subspace.kernel.org > > Please remember to follow good behavioral habits when using the lists. > Though a bit cheesy, the following URL has some simple guidelines for > interacting with the list (or any list): > > - http://www.albion.com/netiquette/ > + https://subspace.kernel.org/etiquette.html > > If multiple people respond to your mail, the CC: list of recipients may > get pretty large. Don't remove anybody from the CC: list without a good > diff --git a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > index 8660493b91d0..3476fb854c7a 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > @@ -194,9 +194,8 @@ Miscellaneous > > * Name: **linux-kernel mailing list archives and search engines** > > - :URL: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > - :URL: http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/index.html > - :URL: http://groups.google.com/group/mlist.linux.kernel > + :URL: https://subspace.kernel.org > + :URL: https://lore.kernel.org Nice! Reviewed-by: Carlos Bilbao <carlos.bilbao.osdev@gmail.com> > :Keywords: linux-kernel, archives, search. > :Description: Some of the linux-kernel mailing list archivers. If > you have a better/another one, please let me know. > diff --git a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > index 5e1fcfad1c4c..fe8616397d63 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > @@ -25,9 +25,8 @@ drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. > Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high > volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists and trees. > > -The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through > -VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) with archives available at > -https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/ > +Like many other Linux mailing lists, the netdev list is hosted at > +kernel.org with archives available at https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/. > > Aside from subsystems like those mentioned above, all network-related > Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > index 66029999b587..f310f2f36666 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > @@ -119,10 +119,10 @@ web, point to it. > > When linking to mailing list archives, preferably use the lore.kernel.org > message archiver service. To create the link URL, use the contents of the > -``Message-Id`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. > +``Message-ID`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. > For example:: > > - Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI/ > + Link: https://lore.kernel.org/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI > > Please check the link to make sure that it is actually working and points > to the relevant message. > @@ -243,11 +243,9 @@ linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all patches, but the > volume on that list has caused a number of developers to tune it out. Please > do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated people, though. > > -Many kernel-related lists are hosted on vger.kernel.org; you can find a > -list of them at http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html. There are > -kernel-related lists hosted elsewhere as well, though. > - > -Do not send more than 15 patches at once to the vger mailing lists!!! > +Many kernel-related lists are hosted at kernel.org; you can find a list > +of them at https://subspace.kernel.org. There are kernel-related lists > +hosted elsewhere as well, though. > > Linus Torvalds is the final arbiter of all changes accepted into the > Linux kernel. His e-mail address is <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>. > @@ -866,9 +864,6 @@ Greg Kroah-Hartman, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer". > > <http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/maintainer-06.html> > > -NO!!!! No more huge patch bombs to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org people! > - <https://lore.kernel.org/r/20050711.125305.08322243.davem@davemloft.net> > - > Kernel Documentation/process/coding-style.rst > > Linus Torvalds's mail on the canonical patch format: > Thanks, Carlos
diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst index 613a01da4717..ef3b116492df 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst @@ -392,13 +392,13 @@ represent a potential hazard to developers, who risk getting buried under a load of electronic mail, running afoul of the conventions used on the Linux lists, or both. -Most kernel mailing lists are run on vger.kernel.org; the master list can +Most kernel mailing lists are hosted at kernel.org; the master list can be found at: - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html + https://subspace.kernel.org -There are lists hosted elsewhere, though; a number of them are at -redhat.com/mailman/listinfo. +There are lists hosted elsewhere; please check the MAINTAINERS file for +the list relevant for any particular subsystem. The core mailing list for kernel development is, of course, linux-kernel. This list is an intimidating place to be; volume can reach 500 messages per diff --git a/Documentation/process/howto.rst b/Documentation/process/howto.rst index eebda4910a88..9438e03d6f50 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/howto.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/howto.rst @@ -331,7 +331,7 @@ they need to be integration-tested. For this purpose, a special testing repository exists into which virtually all subsystem trees are pulled on an almost daily basis: - https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git + https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git This way, the linux-next gives a summary outlook onto what will be expected to go into the mainline kernel at the next merge period. @@ -373,12 +373,12 @@ As some of the above documents describe, the majority of the core kernel developers participate on the Linux Kernel Mailing list. Details on how to subscribe and unsubscribe from the list can be found at: - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-kernel + https://subspace.kernel.org/subscribing.html There are archives of the mailing list on the web in many different places. Use a search engine to find these archives. For example: - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ + https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/ It is highly recommended that you search the archives about the topic you want to bring up, before you post it to the list. A lot of things @@ -393,13 +393,13 @@ groups. Many of the lists are hosted on kernel.org. Information on them can be found at: - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html + https://subspace.kernel.org Please remember to follow good behavioral habits when using the lists. Though a bit cheesy, the following URL has some simple guidelines for interacting with the list (or any list): - http://www.albion.com/netiquette/ + https://subspace.kernel.org/etiquette.html If multiple people respond to your mail, the CC: list of recipients may get pretty large. Don't remove anybody from the CC: list without a good diff --git a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst index 8660493b91d0..3476fb854c7a 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst @@ -194,9 +194,8 @@ Miscellaneous * Name: **linux-kernel mailing list archives and search engines** - :URL: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html - :URL: http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/index.html - :URL: http://groups.google.com/group/mlist.linux.kernel + :URL: https://subspace.kernel.org + :URL: https://lore.kernel.org :Keywords: linux-kernel, archives, search. :Description: Some of the linux-kernel mailing list archivers. If you have a better/another one, please let me know. diff --git a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst index 5e1fcfad1c4c..fe8616397d63 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst @@ -25,9 +25,8 @@ drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists and trees. -The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through -VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) with archives available at -https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/ +Like many other Linux mailing lists, the netdev list is hosted at +kernel.org with archives available at https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/. Aside from subsystems like those mentioned above, all network-related Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst index 66029999b587..f310f2f36666 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst @@ -119,10 +119,10 @@ web, point to it. When linking to mailing list archives, preferably use the lore.kernel.org message archiver service. To create the link URL, use the contents of the -``Message-Id`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. +``Message-ID`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. For example:: - Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI/ + Link: https://lore.kernel.org/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI Please check the link to make sure that it is actually working and points to the relevant message. @@ -243,11 +243,9 @@ linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all patches, but the volume on that list has caused a number of developers to tune it out. Please do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated people, though. -Many kernel-related lists are hosted on vger.kernel.org; you can find a -list of them at http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html. There are -kernel-related lists hosted elsewhere as well, though. - -Do not send more than 15 patches at once to the vger mailing lists!!! +Many kernel-related lists are hosted at kernel.org; you can find a list +of them at https://subspace.kernel.org. There are kernel-related lists +hosted elsewhere as well, though. Linus Torvalds is the final arbiter of all changes accepted into the Linux kernel. His e-mail address is <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>. @@ -866,9 +864,6 @@ Greg Kroah-Hartman, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer". <http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/maintainer-06.html> -NO!!!! No more huge patch bombs to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org people! - <https://lore.kernel.org/r/20050711.125305.08322243.davem@davemloft.net> - Kernel Documentation/process/coding-style.rst Linus Torvalds's mail on the canonical patch format:
There have been some changes to the way mailing lists are hosted at kernel.org, so fix the links that are pointing at the outdated resources. Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> --- Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 8 ++++---- Documentation/process/howto.rst | 10 +++++----- Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst | 5 ++--- Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst | 5 ++--- Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 15 +++++---------- 5 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)