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On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > in crypto documents: > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > this use case. > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer encryption > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. I don't see the point in creating a new driver. I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 --- a/qapi/block-core.json +++ b/qapi/block-core.json @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a # metadata-only probe of the image. # +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev +# storing a detached LUKS heaer +# # Since: 2.9 ## { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } ## # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ # # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. # -# @file: Node to create the image format on +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory +# unless a detached header file is specified using +# @header. # -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory +# unless a detached header file is specified using +# @header. +# +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired +# to perform pre-allocation # # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ ## { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', - 'size': 'size', + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', + '*size': 'size', + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } ## It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, without needing the new block driver With regards, Daniel
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > in crypto documents: > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > this use case. > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer encryption > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > Indeed, this definitely makes things simple. The next version would do that ! > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > # metadata-only probe of the image. > # > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > +# > # Since: 2.9 > ## > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > ## > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > # > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > # > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > +# @header. > # > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > +# @header. > +# > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > +# to perform pre-allocation > # > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > ## > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > - 'size': 'size', > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > + '*size': 'size', > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > ## > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > without needing the new block driver > Yes, most of the logic reuse the pre-existing Luks driver. > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > >
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > in crypto documents: > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > this use case. > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer encryption > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > # metadata-only probe of the image. > # > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > +# > # Since: 2.9 > ## > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > ## > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > # > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > # > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > +# @header. > # > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > +# @header. > +# > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > +# to perform pre-allocation > # > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > ## > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > - 'size': 'size', > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > + '*size': 'size', > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > ## > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > without needing the new block driver > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is quite simple. virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) ^ | Gluks (format-like disk node) / \ file header (blockdev reference) / \ file file (protocol node) | | disk data Luks data > > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > >
On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:41:16AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > > in crypto documents: > > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > > this use case. > > > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer encryption > > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > > # metadata-only probe of the image. > > # > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > > +# > > # Since: 2.9 > > ## > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > > > ## > > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > > # > > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > > # > > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > +# @header. > > # > > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > +# @header. > > +# > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > > +# to perform pre-allocation > > # > > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > > ## > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > > - 'size': 'size', > > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > > + '*size': 'size', > > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > > > ## > > > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > > without needing the new block driver > > > > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) > > > As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is > quite simple. > > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) > ^ > | > Gluks (format-like disk node) > / \ > file header (blockdev reference) > / \ > file file (protocol node) > | | > disk data Luks data What I suggested above ends up with the exact same block driver graph, unless I'm missing something. With regards, Daniel
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:51 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:41:16AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > > > in crypto documents: > > > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > > > this use case. > > > > > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer > encryption > > > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > > > > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > > > > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > > > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > > > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > > > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > > > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > > > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > > > # metadata-only probe of the image. > > > # > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > > > +# > > > # Since: 2.9 > > > ## > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > > > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > > > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > > > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > > > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > > > > > ## > > > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > > > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > > > # > > > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > > > # > > > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > > > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > +# @header. > > > # > > > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > > > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > +# @header. > > > +# > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > > > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > > > +# to perform pre-allocation > > > # > > > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > > > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > > > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > > > ## > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > - 'size': 'size', > > > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > + '*size': 'size', > > > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > > > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > > > > > ## > > > > > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > > > without needing the new block driver > > > > > > > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) > > > > > > As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is > > quite simple. > > > > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) > > ^ > > | > > Gluks (format-like disk node) > > / \ > > file header (blockdev reference) > > / \ > > file file (protocol node) > > | | > > disk data Luks data > > What I suggested above ends up with the exact same block driver > graph, unless I'm missing something. > I could overlook something or fail to adequately convey the goal of the patchset. :( Indeed, utilizing the same block driver might be effective if our only goal is to divide the header volume, giving us an additional way to use Luks. While supporting encryption for any disk format that QEMU is capable of supporting is another feature of this patchset. This implies that we might link the Luks header to other blockdev references, which might alter how the Luks are used and make them incompatible with it. It's not user-friendly in my opinion, and I'm not aware of a more elegant solution. > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > >
On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 01:32:51AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:51 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:41:16AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > > > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > > > > in crypto documents: > > > > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > > > > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > > > > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > > > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > > > > this use case. > > > > > > > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > > > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer > > encryption > > > > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > > > > > > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > > > > > > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > > > > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > > > > > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > > > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > > > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > > > > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > > > > # metadata-only probe of the image. > > > > # > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > > > > +# > > > > # Since: 2.9 > > > > ## > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > > > > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > > > > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > > > > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > > > > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > > > > > > > ## > > > > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > > > > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > > > > # > > > > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > > > > # > > > > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > > > > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > +# @header. > > > > # > > > > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > > > > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > +# @header. > > > > +# > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > > > > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > > > > +# to perform pre-allocation > > > > # > > > > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > > > > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > > > > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > > > > ## > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > - 'size': 'size', > > > > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > + '*size': 'size', > > > > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > > > > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > > > > > > > ## > > > > > > > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > > > > without needing the new block driver > > > > > > > > > > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) > > > > > > > > > As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is > > > quite simple. > > > > > > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) > > > ^ > > > | > > > Gluks (format-like disk node) > > > / \ > > > file header (blockdev reference) > > > / \ > > > file file (protocol node) > > > | | > > > disk data Luks data > > > > What I suggested above ends up with the exact same block driver > > graph, unless I'm missing something. > > > > I could overlook something or fail to adequately convey the goal of the > patchset. :( > > Indeed, utilizing the same block driver might be effective if our only goal > is to divide the header volume, giving us an additional way to use Luks. > > While supporting encryption for any disk format that QEMU is capable of > supporting is another feature of this patchset. This implies that we might > link the Luks header to other blockdev references, which might alter how > the Luks are used and make them incompatible with it. It's not > user-friendly in my opinion, and I'm not aware of a more elegant solution. That existing LUKS driver can already be used in combination with any QEMU block driver, and in the case of disk formats, can be used either above or below the format, depending on whether you want to encrypt just the image payload, or the payload and metadata ie. We can do luks -> qcow2 -> file (qcow2 header and qcow2 payload protected) or qcow2 -> luks -> file (only qcow2 payload protected) And in the qcow2 case, we also have support for LUKS integrated natively into the qcow2 format, which is similar to the 2nd case, with the benefit that we're explicit that the image requires encryption. With regards, Daniel
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:44 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 01:32:51AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:51 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:41:16AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé < > berrange@redhat.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > > > > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > > > > > in crypto documents: > > > > > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > > > > > > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > > > > > > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate > volume > > > > > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to > support > > > > > > this use case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've > named > > > > > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer > > > encryption > > > > > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > > > > > > > > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > > > > > > > > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > > > > > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > > > > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > > > > > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > > > > > # metadata-only probe of the image. > > > > > # > > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > > > > > +# > > > > > # Since: 2.9 > > > > > ## > > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > > > > > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > > > > > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > > > > > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > > > > > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > > > > > > > > > ## > > > > > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > > > > > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > > > > > # > > > > > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > > > > > # > > > > > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > > > > > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > > +# @header. > > > > > # > > > > > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > > > > > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > > +# @header. > > > > > +# > > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > > > > > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > > > > > +# to perform pre-allocation > > > > > # > > > > > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: > 4.2) > > > > > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > > > > > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > > > > > ## > > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > > - 'size': 'size', > > > > > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > > + '*size': 'size', > > > > > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > > > > > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > > > > > > > > > ## > > > > > > > > > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > > > > > without needing the new block driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is > > > > quite simple. > > > > > > > > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) > > > > ^ > > > > | > > > > Gluks (format-like disk node) > > > > / \ > > > > file header (blockdev reference) > > > > / \ > > > > file file (protocol node) > > > > | | > > > > disk data Luks data > > > > > > What I suggested above ends up with the exact same block driver > > > graph, unless I'm missing something. > > > > > > > I could overlook something or fail to adequately convey the goal of the > > patchset. :( > > > > Indeed, utilizing the same block driver might be effective if our only > goal > > is to divide the header volume, giving us an additional way to use Luks. > > > > While supporting encryption for any disk format that QEMU is capable of > > supporting is another feature of this patchset. This implies that we > might > > link the Luks header to other blockdev references, which might alter how > > the Luks are used and make them incompatible with it. It's not > > user-friendly in my opinion, and I'm not aware of a more elegant > solution. > > That existing LUKS driver can already be used in combination with > any QEMU block driver, and in the case of disk formats, can be used > either above or below the format, depending on whether you want to > encrypt just the image payload, or the payload and metadata ie. > > We can do > > luks -> qcow2 -> file (qcow2 header and qcow2 payload protected) > OK, I prefer this solution so that we can support any format implemented by the QEMU block driver. > > or > > qcow2 -> luks -> file (only qcow2 payload protected) > > And in the qcow2 case, we also have support for LUKS integrated natively > into the qcow2 format, which is similar to the 2nd case, with the > benefit that we're explicit that the image requires encryption. > > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- > https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- > https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- > https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > > Let me make a conclusion about our discussion, if i misunderstand something, point that out please: 1. To achieve the generic encryption, extending the pre-existing LUKS QEMU block driver is suggested in practice. 2. Introducing a optional field called "header-file" that store the LUKS header independently, and once "header-file" was specified, we should use it to encrypt/decrypt the blockdev node referenced by the "file" field. The blockdev tree is like: virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(frontend device) ^ | LUKS / \ file header-file / \ data protocol node LUKS header protocol node 3. The usage of the generic LUKS is like: Take the qcow2 as an example: 1. add a protocol blockdev node of data disk $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-1-storage", "driver": "file", "filename": "/path/to/test_disk.qcow2"}}' 2. add a protocol blockdev node of Luks header as above. $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-2-storage", "driver": "file", "filename": "/path/to/cipher.gluks" }}' 3. add the secret for decrypting the cipher stored in Gluks header as above $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"object-add", "arguments":{"qom-type": "secret", "id": "libvirt-2-storage-secret0", "data": "abc123"}}' 4. add the qcow2-drived blockdev format node: $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-1-format", "driver": "qcow2", "file": "libvirt-1-storage"}}' 5. add the luks-drived blockdev to connect the qcow2 disk with Luks header by specifying the field "header-file" $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-2-format", "driver": "luks", "file": "libvirt-1-format", "header-file": "libvirt-2-storage", "key-secret": "libvirt-2-format-secret0"}}' 6. add the device finally $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"device_add", "arguments": {"num-queues": "1", "driver": "virtio-blk-pci", "scsi": "off", "drive": "libvirt-2-format", "id": "virtio-disk2"}}' Anyway, thanks for the comments. Yong.
Am 04.12.2023 um 18:43 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 01:32:51AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:51 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:41:16AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 12:06:17AM +0800, Hyman Huang wrote: > > > > > > This functionality was motivated by the following to-do list seen > > > > > > in crypto documents: > > > > > > https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Block/Crypto > > > > > > > > > > > > The last chapter says we should "separate header volume": > > > > > > > > > > > > The LUKS format has ability to store the header in a separate volume > > > > > > from the payload. We should extend the LUKS driver in QEMU to support > > > > > > this use case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As a proof-of-concept, I've created this patchset, which I've named > > > > > > the Gluks: generic luks. As their name suggests, they offer > > > encryption > > > > > > for any format that QEMU theoretically supports. > > > > > > > > > > I don't see the point in creating a new driver. > > > > > > > > > > I would expect detached header support to be implemented via an > > > > > optional new 'header' field in the existing driver. ie > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > index ca390c5700..48d1f2a974 100644 > > > > > --- a/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > +++ b/qapi/block-core.json > > > > > @@ -3352,11 +3352,15 @@ > > > > > # decryption key (since 2.6). Mandatory except when doing a > > > > > # metadata-only probe of the image. > > > > > # > > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer > > > > > +# > > > > > # Since: 2.9 > > > > > ## > > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevOptionsLUKS', > > > > > 'base': 'BlockdevOptionsGenericFormat', > > > > > - 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str' } } > > > > > + 'data': { '*key-secret': 'str', > > > > > + "*header-file': 'BlockdevRef'} } > > > > > > > > > > ## > > > > > # @BlockdevOptionsGenericCOWFormat: > > > > > @@ -4941,9 +4945,18 @@ > > > > > # > > > > > # Driver specific image creation options for LUKS. > > > > > # > > > > > -# @file: Node to create the image format on > > > > > +# @file: Node to create the image format on. Mandatory > > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > > +# @header. > > > > > # > > > > > -# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes > > > > > +# @size: Size of the virtual disk in bytes. Mandatory > > > > > +# unless a detached header file is specified using > > > > > +# @header. > > > > > +# > > > > > +# @header: optional reference to the location of a blockdev > > > > > +# storing a detached LUKS heaer. The @file option is > > > > > +# is optional when this is given, unless it is desired > > > > > +# to perform pre-allocation > > > > > # > > > > > # @preallocation: Preallocation mode for the new image (since: 4.2) > > > > > # (default: off; allowed values: off, metadata, falloc, full) > > > > > @@ -4952,8 +4965,9 @@ > > > > > ## > > > > > { 'struct': 'BlockdevCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > > 'base': 'QCryptoBlockCreateOptionsLUKS', > > > > > - 'data': { 'file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > > - 'size': 'size', > > > > > + 'data': { '*file': 'BlockdevRef', > > > > > + '*size': 'size', > > > > > + '*header': 'BlockdevRef' > > > > > '*preallocation': 'PreallocMode' } } > > > > > > > > > > ## > > > > > > > > > > It ends up giving basicallly the same workflow as you outline, > > > > > without needing the new block driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about the design and usage, could it be simpler? Any advice? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see below, the Gluks format block layer driver's design is > > > > quite simple. > > > > > > > > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(front-end device) > > > > ^ > > > > | > > > > Gluks (format-like disk node) > > > > / \ > > > > file header (blockdev reference) > > > > / \ > > > > file file (protocol node) > > > > | | > > > > disk data Luks data > > > > > > What I suggested above ends up with the exact same block driver > > > graph, unless I'm missing something. > > > > > > > I could overlook something or fail to adequately convey the goal of the > > patchset. :( > > > > Indeed, utilizing the same block driver might be effective if our only goal > > is to divide the header volume, giving us an additional way to use Luks. > > > > While supporting encryption for any disk format that QEMU is capable of > > supporting is another feature of this patchset. This implies that we might > > link the Luks header to other blockdev references, which might alter how > > the Luks are used and make them incompatible with it. It's not > > user-friendly in my opinion, and I'm not aware of a more elegant solution. > > That existing LUKS driver can already be used in combination with > any QEMU block driver, and in the case of disk formats, can be used > either above or below the format, depending on whether you want to > encrypt just the image payload, or the payload and metadata ie. > > We can do > > luks -> qcow2 -> file (qcow2 header and qcow2 payload protected) > > or > > qcow2 -> luks -> file (only qcow2 payload protected) The other way around actually. If you want to have qcow2 metadata encrypted, you need to put luks between qcow2 and file so that it sees the metadata I/O done by the qcow2 driver. If you have luks above qcow2, then qcow2 will see only encrypted data, but will access the metadata as usual without going through encryption. Kevin > And in the qcow2 case, we also have support for LUKS integrated natively > into the qcow2 format, which is similar to the 2nd case, with the > benefit that we're explicit that the image requires encryption. > > With regards, > Daniel > -- > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| > |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| > |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| >
On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 09:51:21AM +0800, Yong Huang wrote: > Let me make a conclusion about our discussion, if i > misunderstand something, > point that out please: > > 1. To achieve the generic encryption, extending the pre-existing LUKS QEMU > block driver is suggested in practice. yes > > 2. Introducing a optional field called "header-file" that store the LUKS > header > independently, and once "header-file" was specified, we should use it to > encrypt/decrypt the blockdev node referenced by the "file" field. Yes. > > The blockdev tree is like: > virtio-blk/vhost-user-blk...(frontend device) > ^ > | > LUKS > / \ > file header-file > / \ > data protocol node LUKS header protocol node That is one possible blockdev tree, but there are many possible variations. > 3. The usage of the generic LUKS is like: > > Take the qcow2 as an example: > > 1. add a protocol blockdev node of data disk > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", > "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-1-storage", "driver": "file", > "filename": "/path/to/test_disk.qcow2"}}' > > 2. add a protocol blockdev node of Luks header as above. > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", > "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-2-storage", "driver": "file", > "filename": "/path/to/cipher.gluks" }}' > > 3. add the secret for decrypting the cipher stored in Gluks header as > above > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"object-add", > "arguments":{"qom-type": "secret", "id": > "libvirt-2-storage-secret0", "data": "abc123"}}' > > 4. add the qcow2-drived blockdev format node: > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", > "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-1-format", "driver": "qcow2", > "file": "libvirt-1-storage"}}' > > 5. add the luks-drived blockdev to connect the qcow2 disk with Luks > header by specifying the field "header-file" > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"blockdev-add", > "arguments":{"node-name": "libvirt-2-format", "driver": "luks", > "file": "libvirt-1-format", "header-file": "libvirt-2-storage", > "key-secret": "libvirt-2-format-secret0"}}' > > 6. add the device finally > $ virsh qemu-monitor-command vm '{"execute":"device_add", > "arguments": {"num-queues": "1", "driver": "virtio-blk-pci", "scsi": > "off", "drive": "libvirt-2-format", "id": "virtio-disk2"}}' Yes, that looks like a valid sequence of steps. With regards, Daniel