Message ID | 20241012104429.1048908-7-zhao1.liu@intel.com (mailing list archive) |
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State | New |
Headers | show |
Series | Introduce SMP Cache Topology | expand |
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 06:44:28PM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote: > Allow user to configure l1d, l1i, l2 and l3 cache topologies for PC > machine. > > Additionally, add the document of "-machine smp-cache" in > qemu-options.hx. > > Signed-off-by: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> > Tested-by: Yongwei Ma <yongwei.ma@intel.com> > Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> > --- > Changes since Patch v2: > * Polished the document. (Jonathan) > > Changes since Patch v1: > * Merged document into this patch. (Markus) > > Changes since RFC v2: > * Used cache_supported array. > --- > hw/i386/pc.c | 4 ++++ > qemu-options.hx | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++++++- > 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > -machine cxl-fmw.0.targets.0=cxl.0,cxl-fmw.0.targets.1=cxl.1,cxl-fmw.0.size=128G,cxl-fmw.0.interleave-granularity=512 > + > + ``smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel`` > + Define cache properties for SMP system. > + > + ``cache=cachename`` specifies the cache that the properties will be > + applied on. This field is the combination of cache level and cache > + type. It supports ``l1d`` (L1 data cache), ``l1i`` (L1 instruction > + cache), ``l2`` (L2 unified cache) and ``l3`` (L3 unified cache). > + > + ``topology=topologylevel`` sets the cache topology level. It accepts > + CPU topology levels including ``thread``, ``core``, ``module``, > + ``cluster``, ``die``, ``socket``, ``book``, ``drawer`` and a special > + value ``default``. If ``default`` is set, then the cache topology will > + follow the architecture's default cache topology model. If another > + topology level is set, the cache will be shared at corresponding CPU > + topology level. For example, ``topology=core`` makes the cache shared > + by all threads within a core. > + > + Example: > + > + :: > + > + -machine smp-cache.0.cache=l1d,smp-cache.0.topology=core,smp-cache.1.cache=l1i,smp-cache.1.topology=core There are 4 cache types, l1d, l1i, l2, l3. In this example you've only set properties for l1d, l1i caches. What does this mean for l2 / l3 caches ? Are they reported as not existing, or are they to be reported at some built-in default topology level. If the latter, how does the user know what that built-in default is, and avoid nonsense like l1d being at socket level, and l3 being at the core level ? Can we explicitly disable a l2/l3 cache, or must it always exists ? The QAPI has an "invalid" topology level. You've not documented that as permitted here, but the qapi parser will happily allow it. What semantics will that have ? With regards, Daniel
Hi Daniel, > > + ``smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel`` > > + Define cache properties for SMP system. > > + > > + ``cache=cachename`` specifies the cache that the properties will be > > + applied on. This field is the combination of cache level and cache > > + type. It supports ``l1d`` (L1 data cache), ``l1i`` (L1 instruction > > + cache), ``l2`` (L2 unified cache) and ``l3`` (L3 unified cache). > > + > > + ``topology=topologylevel`` sets the cache topology level. It accepts > > + CPU topology levels including ``thread``, ``core``, ``module``, > > + ``cluster``, ``die``, ``socket``, ``book``, ``drawer`` and a special > > + value ``default``. If ``default`` is set, then the cache topology will > > + follow the architecture's default cache topology model. If another > > + topology level is set, the cache will be shared at corresponding CPU > > + topology level. For example, ``topology=core`` makes the cache shared > > + by all threads within a core. > > + > > + Example: > > + > > + :: > > + > > + -machine smp-cache.0.cache=l1d,smp-cache.0.topology=core,smp-cache.1.cache=l1i,smp-cache.1.topology=core > > There are 4 cache types, l1d, l1i, l2, l3. > > In this example you've only set properties for l1d, l1i caches. > > What does this mean for l2 / l3 caches ? Omitting "cache" will default to using the "default" level. I think I should add the above description to the documentation. > Are they reported as not existing, or are they to be reported at > some built-in default topology level. It's the latter. If a machine doesn't support l2/l3, then QEMU will also report the error like: qemu-system-*: l2 cache topology not supported by this machine > If the latter, how does the user know what that built-in default is, Currently, the default cache model for x86 is L1 per core, L2 per core, and L3 per die. Similar to the topology levels, there is still no way to expose this to users. I can descript default cache model in doc. But I feel like we're back to the situation we discussed earlier: "default" CPU topology support should be related to the CPU model, but in practice, QEMU supports it at the machine level. The cache topology depends on CPU topology support and can only continue to be added on top of the machine. So do you think we can add topology and cache information in CpuModelInfo so that query-cpu-model-expansion can expose default CPU/cache topology information to users? This way, users can customize CPU/cache topology in -smp and -machine smp-cache. Although the QMP command is targeted at the CPU model while our CLI is at the machine level, at least we can expose the information to users. If you agree to expose the default topology/cache info in query-cpu-model-expansion, can I work on this in a separate series? :) > and avoid nonsense like l1d being at socket level, and l3 being at the > core level ? Thank you! I ensured l1 must be lower than l2 and l2 must be lower than l3, but missed l1 must be lower than l3. The level check is incomplete due to the influence of "default." I think the check should be placed after the arch CPU sets the cache model, so that "default" is consumed. > Can we explicitly disable a l2/l3 cache, or must it always exists ? Now we can't disable it through -machine smp-cache (while x86 CPU support l3-cache=off), but as you mentioned, I can try using "invalid" to support this scenario, which would be more general. Similarly, if you agree, I can also add this support in a separate series. > The QAPI has an "invalid" topology level. You've not documented > that as permitted here, but the qapi parser will happily allow > it. What semantics will that have ? Because the current this patch throws an error for "invalid", so I didn't included it in the doc. Thanks, Zhao
On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:57:36AM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > > + ``smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel`` > > > + Define cache properties for SMP system. > > > + > > > + ``cache=cachename`` specifies the cache that the properties will be > > > + applied on. This field is the combination of cache level and cache > > > + type. It supports ``l1d`` (L1 data cache), ``l1i`` (L1 instruction > > > + cache), ``l2`` (L2 unified cache) and ``l3`` (L3 unified cache). > > > + > > > + ``topology=topologylevel`` sets the cache topology level. It accepts > > > + CPU topology levels including ``thread``, ``core``, ``module``, > > > + ``cluster``, ``die``, ``socket``, ``book``, ``drawer`` and a special > > > + value ``default``. If ``default`` is set, then the cache topology will > > > + follow the architecture's default cache topology model. If another > > > + topology level is set, the cache will be shared at corresponding CPU > > > + topology level. For example, ``topology=core`` makes the cache shared > > > + by all threads within a core. > > > + > > > + Example: > > > + > > > + :: > > > + > > > + -machine smp-cache.0.cache=l1d,smp-cache.0.topology=core,smp-cache.1.cache=l1i,smp-cache.1.topology=core > > > > There are 4 cache types, l1d, l1i, l2, l3. > > > > In this example you've only set properties for l1d, l1i caches. > > > > What does this mean for l2 / l3 caches ? > > Omitting "cache" will default to using the "default" level. > > I think I should add the above description to the documentation. > > > Are they reported as not existing, or are they to be reported at > > some built-in default topology level. > > It's the latter. > > If a machine doesn't support l2/l3, then QEMU will also report the error > like: > > qemu-system-*: l2 cache topology not supported by this machine Ok, that's good. > > If the latter, how does the user know what that built-in default is, > > Currently, the default cache model for x86 is L1 per core, L2 per core, > and L3 per die. Similar to the topology levels, there is still no way to > expose this to users. I can descript default cache model in doc. > > But I feel like we're back to the situation we discussed earlier: > "default" CPU topology support should be related to the CPU model, but > in practice, QEMU supports it at the machine level. The cache topology > depends on CPU topology support and can only continue to be added on top > of the machine. > > So do you think we can add topology and cache information in CpuModelInfo > so that query-cpu-model-expansion can expose default CPU/cache topology > information to users? > > This way, users can customize CPU/cache topology in -smp and > -machine smp-cache. Although the QMP command is targeted at the CPU model > while our CLI is at the machine level, at least we can expose the > information to users. > > If you agree to expose the default topology/cache info in > query-cpu-model-expansion, can I work on this in a separate series? :) Yeah, lets worry about that another day. It it sufficient to just encourage users to always specify the full set of caches. > > Can we explicitly disable a l2/l3 cache, or must it always exists ? > > Now we can't disable it through -machine smp-cache (while x86 CPU support > l3-cache=off), but as you mentioned, I can try using "invalid" to support > this scenario, which would be more general. Similarly, if you agree, I > can also add this support in a separate series. If we decide to offer a way to disable caches, probably better to have a name like 'disabled' for such a setting, and yes, we don't need todo that now. With regards, Daniel
On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 08:58:03AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 08:58:03 +0100 > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/7] i386/pc: Support cache topology in -machine for > PC machine > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 11:57:36AM +0800, Zhao Liu wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > > > > > + ``smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel`` > > > > + Define cache properties for SMP system. > > > > + > > > > + ``cache=cachename`` specifies the cache that the properties will be > > > > + applied on. This field is the combination of cache level and cache > > > > + type. It supports ``l1d`` (L1 data cache), ``l1i`` (L1 instruction > > > > + cache), ``l2`` (L2 unified cache) and ``l3`` (L3 unified cache). > > > > + > > > > + ``topology=topologylevel`` sets the cache topology level. It accepts > > > > + CPU topology levels including ``thread``, ``core``, ``module``, > > > > + ``cluster``, ``die``, ``socket``, ``book``, ``drawer`` and a special > > > > + value ``default``. If ``default`` is set, then the cache topology will > > > > + follow the architecture's default cache topology model. If another > > > > + topology level is set, the cache will be shared at corresponding CPU > > > > + topology level. For example, ``topology=core`` makes the cache shared > > > > + by all threads within a core. > > > > + > > > > + Example: > > > > + > > > > + :: > > > > + > > > > + -machine smp-cache.0.cache=l1d,smp-cache.0.topology=core,smp-cache.1.cache=l1i,smp-cache.1.topology=core > > > > > > There are 4 cache types, l1d, l1i, l2, l3. > > > > > > In this example you've only set properties for l1d, l1i caches. > > > > > > What does this mean for l2 / l3 caches ? > > > > Omitting "cache" will default to using the "default" level. > > > > I think I should add the above description to the documentation. > > > > > Are they reported as not existing, or are they to be reported at > > > some built-in default topology level. > > > > It's the latter. > > > > If a machine doesn't support l2/l3, then QEMU will also report the error > > like: > > > > qemu-system-*: l2 cache topology not supported by this machine > > Ok, that's good. > > > > If the latter, how does the user know what that built-in default is, > > > > Currently, the default cache model for x86 is L1 per core, L2 per core, > > and L3 per die. Similar to the topology levels, there is still no way to > > expose this to users. I can descript default cache model in doc. > > > > But I feel like we're back to the situation we discussed earlier: > > "default" CPU topology support should be related to the CPU model, but > > in practice, QEMU supports it at the machine level. The cache topology > > depends on CPU topology support and can only continue to be added on top > > of the machine. > > > > So do you think we can add topology and cache information in CpuModelInfo > > so that query-cpu-model-expansion can expose default CPU/cache topology > > information to users? > > > > This way, users can customize CPU/cache topology in -smp and > > -machine smp-cache. Although the QMP command is targeted at the CPU model > > while our CLI is at the machine level, at least we can expose the > > information to users. > > > > If you agree to expose the default topology/cache info in > > query-cpu-model-expansion, can I work on this in a separate series? :) > > Yeah, lets worry about that another day. > > It it sufficient to just encourage users to always specify > the full set of caches. Thanks! > > > Can we explicitly disable a l2/l3 cache, or must it always exists ? > > > > Now we can't disable it through -machine smp-cache (while x86 CPU support > > l3-cache=off), but as you mentioned, I can try using "invalid" to support > > this scenario, which would be more general. Similarly, if you agree, I > > can also add this support in a separate series. > > If we decide to offer a way to disable caches, probably better to have > a name like 'disabled' for such a setting, and yes, we don't need todo > that now. Yes, "disabled" is better. Regards, Zhao
diff --git a/hw/i386/pc.c b/hw/i386/pc.c index 2047633e4cf7..8aea2308dcb9 100644 --- a/hw/i386/pc.c +++ b/hw/i386/pc.c @@ -1791,6 +1791,10 @@ static void pc_machine_class_init(ObjectClass *oc, void *data) mc->nvdimm_supported = true; mc->smp_props.dies_supported = true; mc->smp_props.modules_supported = true; + mc->smp_props.cache_supported[CACHE_LEVEL_AND_TYPE_L1D] = true; + mc->smp_props.cache_supported[CACHE_LEVEL_AND_TYPE_L1I] = true; + mc->smp_props.cache_supported[CACHE_LEVEL_AND_TYPE_L2] = true; + mc->smp_props.cache_supported[CACHE_LEVEL_AND_TYPE_L3] = true; mc->default_ram_id = "pc.ram"; pcmc->default_smbios_ep_type = SMBIOS_ENTRY_POINT_TYPE_AUTO; diff --git a/qemu-options.hx b/qemu-options.hx index d5afefe5b63c..8a0cd7393f34 100644 --- a/qemu-options.hx +++ b/qemu-options.hx @@ -39,7 +39,8 @@ DEF("machine", HAS_ARG, QEMU_OPTION_machine, \ " memory-encryption=@var{} memory encryption object to use (default=none)\n" " hmat=on|off controls ACPI HMAT support (default=off)\n" " memory-backend='backend-id' specifies explicitly provided backend for main RAM (default=none)\n" - " cxl-fmw.0.targets.0=firsttarget,cxl-fmw.0.targets.1=secondtarget,cxl-fmw.0.size=size[,cxl-fmw.0.interleave-granularity=granularity]\n", + " cxl-fmw.0.targets.0=firsttarget,cxl-fmw.0.targets.1=secondtarget,cxl-fmw.0.size=size[,cxl-fmw.0.interleave-granularity=granularity]\n" + " smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel\n", QEMU_ARCH_ALL) SRST ``-machine [type=]name[,prop=value[,...]]`` @@ -159,6 +160,29 @@ SRST :: -machine cxl-fmw.0.targets.0=cxl.0,cxl-fmw.0.targets.1=cxl.1,cxl-fmw.0.size=128G,cxl-fmw.0.interleave-granularity=512 + + ``smp-cache.0.cache=cachename,smp-cache.0.topology=topologylevel`` + Define cache properties for SMP system. + + ``cache=cachename`` specifies the cache that the properties will be + applied on. This field is the combination of cache level and cache + type. It supports ``l1d`` (L1 data cache), ``l1i`` (L1 instruction + cache), ``l2`` (L2 unified cache) and ``l3`` (L3 unified cache). + + ``topology=topologylevel`` sets the cache topology level. It accepts + CPU topology levels including ``thread``, ``core``, ``module``, + ``cluster``, ``die``, ``socket``, ``book``, ``drawer`` and a special + value ``default``. If ``default`` is set, then the cache topology will + follow the architecture's default cache topology model. If another + topology level is set, the cache will be shared at corresponding CPU + topology level. For example, ``topology=core`` makes the cache shared + by all threads within a core. + + Example: + + :: + + -machine smp-cache.0.cache=l1d,smp-cache.0.topology=core,smp-cache.1.cache=l1i,smp-cache.1.topology=core ERST DEF("M", HAS_ARG, QEMU_OPTION_M,