| Message ID | a0480e18-7b67-4e16-983e-c8f888c97261@16depo.xyz (mailing list archive) |
|---|---|
| State | Changes Requested |
| Delegated to: | Chen-Yu Tsai |
| Headers | show |
| Series | [wireless-regdb] Update regulatory info for Armenia (AM) | expand |
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:04 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: > > Source:https://www.arlis.am/DocumentView.aspx?DocID=181829 This only justifies the power limit change. What about the maximum bandwidth? ChenYu > Signed-off-by: Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> > > --- > db.txt | 4 ++-- > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt > index fdc2c13..0708039 100644 > --- a/db.txt > +++ b/db.txt > @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ country AL: DFS-ETSI > > country AM: DFS-ETSI > (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) > - (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (18) > - (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (18), DFS > + (5150 - 5350 @ 80), (100mW) > + (5470 - 5875 @ 80), (100mW), NO-OUTDOOR,DFS > > country AN: DFS-ETSI > (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) > -- > 2.34.1 >
I have no evidence to why bandwidth restriction exist in the first place, and my main concern in not power or bandwidth, but number of channels. Now most wireless vendors use only UNII-1 and (less often) UNII-2 for AM regulatory domain, but this decision from regulators will allow to use UNII-2 extended and UNII-3. The document that being amended is N-169 (https://www.arlis.am/documentview.aspx?docid=76877), and there is only this passage about 5GHz: 5150 - 5250 ՄՀց, 5725 - 5875 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում աշխատող, մինչև 100 մՎտ հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների օգտագործման համար (միայն շենքերի ներսում, ինչպես նաև օդանավերում` երկրի մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), 5250 - 5350 ՄՀց, 5470 - 5725 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում աշխատող, մինչև100 մՎտ հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների օգտագործման համար (օդանավերում` երկրի մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), which translated as: Operating in the radio frequency bands 5150 - 5250 MHz, 5725 - 5875 MHz, for the use of local area network equipment with a power of up to 100 mW (only inside buildings, as well as in aircraft when flying above 3000 meters above the earth's surface), 5250 - 5350 MHz, 5470 - 5725 MHz for the use of local network equipment operating in radio frequency bands with a power of up to 100 mW (in airplanes during flight above 3000 meters above the earth's surface); Anyway, if you think that we can't use wider channels, please, change only frequencies and power. On 14.12.2023 18:02, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:04 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: >> >> Source:https://www.arlis.am/DocumentView.aspx?DocID=181829 > > This only justifies the power limit change. What about the > maximum bandwidth? > > > ChenYu > >> Signed-off-by: Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> >> >> --- >> db.txt | 4 ++-- >> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt >> index fdc2c13..0708039 100644 >> --- a/db.txt >> +++ b/db.txt >> @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ country AL: DFS-ETSI >> >> country AM: DFS-ETSI >> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) >> - (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (18) >> - (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (18), DFS >> + (5150 - 5350 @ 80), (100mW) >> + (5470 - 5875 @ 80), (100mW), NO-OUTDOOR,DFS >> >> country AN: DFS-ETSI >> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) >> -- >> 2.34.1 >>
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 11:40 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: > > I have no evidence to why bandwidth restriction exist in the first > place, and my main concern in not power or bandwidth, but number of > channels. Now most wireless vendors use only UNII-1 and (less often) > UNII-2 for AM regulatory domain, but this decision from regulators will > allow to use UNII-2 extended and UNII-3. > The document that being amended is N-169 > (https://www.arlis.am/documentview.aspx?docid=76877), and there is only > this passage about 5GHz: > > 5150 - 5250 ՄՀց, 5725 - 5875 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում > աշխատող, մինչև 100 մՎտ հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների > օգտագործման համար (միայն շենքերի ներսում, ինչպես նաև օդանավերում` երկրի > մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), 5250 - 5350 ՄՀց, 5470 - > 5725 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում աշխատող, մինչև100 մՎտ > հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների օգտագործման համար > (օդանավերում` երկրի մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), > > which translated as: > > Operating in the radio frequency bands 5150 - 5250 MHz, 5725 - 5875 MHz, > for the use of local area network equipment with a power of up to 100 mW > (only inside buildings, as well as in aircraft when flying above 3000 > meters above the earth's surface), 5250 - 5350 MHz, 5470 - 5725 MHz for > the use of local network equipment operating in radio frequency bands > with a power of up to 100 mW (in airplanes during flight above 3000 > meters above the earth's surface); > > Anyway, if you think that we can't use wider channels, please, change > only frequencies and power. Can you send a new version changing not the bandwidth but everything else? That would provide a better trail. Please also included the translated text in the commit log. Sometimes URLs will disappear due to one reason or another. Thanks ChenYu > On 14.12.2023 18:02, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:04 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: > >> > >> Source:https://www.arlis.am/DocumentView.aspx?DocID=181829 > > > > This only justifies the power limit change. What about the > > maximum bandwidth? > > > > > > ChenYu > > > >> Signed-off-by: Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> > >> > >> --- > >> db.txt | 4 ++-- > >> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt > >> index fdc2c13..0708039 100644 > >> --- a/db.txt > >> +++ b/db.txt > >> @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ country AL: DFS-ETSI > >> > >> country AM: DFS-ETSI > >> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) > >> - (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (18) > >> - (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (18), DFS > >> + (5150 - 5350 @ 80), (100mW) > >> + (5470 - 5875 @ 80), (100mW), NO-OUTDOOR,DFS > >> > >> country AN: DFS-ETSI > >> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) > >> -- > >> 2.34.1 > >>
There is new information. I've found commit that restrict bandwidth without reference to any law or act from Armenia regulators: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/patch/1422013872-9732-1-git-send-email-jouni@qca.qualcomm.com/ I would like to remove this restriction altogether from 2.4 GHz range as well as 5GHz. Before i make another patch with, please confirm that the bandwidth restriction should be removed. On 22.12.2023 06:32, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 11:40 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: >> I have no evidence to why bandwidth restriction exist in the first >> place, and my main concern in not power or bandwidth, but number of >> channels. Now most wireless vendors use only UNII-1 and (less often) >> UNII-2 for AM regulatory domain, but this decision from regulators will >> allow to use UNII-2 extended and UNII-3. >> The document that being amended is N-169 >> (https://www.arlis.am/documentview.aspx?docid=76877), and there is only >> this passage about 5GHz: >> >> 5150 - 5250 ՄՀց, 5725 - 5875 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում >> աշխատող, մինչև 100 մՎտ հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների >> օգտագործման համար (միայն շենքերի ներսում, ինչպես նաև օդանավերում` երկրի >> մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), 5250 - 5350 ՄՀց, 5470 - >> 5725 ՄՀց ռադիոհաճախականությունների շերտերում աշխատող, մինչև100 մՎտ >> հզորությամբ, լոկալ ցանցերի սարքավորումների օգտագործման համար >> (օդանավերում` երկրի մակերևույթից 3000 մետրից բարձր թռիչքի ժամանակ), >> >> which translated as: >> >> Operating in the radio frequency bands 5150 - 5250 MHz, 5725 - 5875 MHz, >> for the use of local area network equipment with a power of up to 100 mW >> (only inside buildings, as well as in aircraft when flying above 3000 >> meters above the earth's surface), 5250 - 5350 MHz, 5470 - 5725 MHz for >> the use of local network equipment operating in radio frequency bands >> with a power of up to 100 mW (in airplanes during flight above 3000 >> meters above the earth's surface); >> >> Anyway, if you think that we can't use wider channels, please, change >> only frequencies and power. > Can you send a new version changing not the bandwidth but everything else? > That would provide a better trail. > > Please also included the translated text in the commit log. Sometimes > URLs will disappear due to one reason or another. > > > Thanks > ChenYu > >> On 14.12.2023 18:02, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:04 PM Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> wrote: >>>> Source:https://www.arlis.am/DocumentView.aspx?DocID=181829 >>> This only justifies the power limit change. What about the >>> maximum bandwidth? >>> >>> >>> ChenYu >>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> db.txt | 4 ++-- >>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt >>>> index fdc2c13..0708039 100644 >>>> --- a/db.txt >>>> +++ b/db.txt >>>> @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ country AL: DFS-ETSI >>>> >>>> country AM: DFS-ETSI >>>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) >>>> - (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (18) >>>> - (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (18), DFS >>>> + (5150 - 5350 @ 80), (100mW) >>>> + (5470 - 5875 @ 80), (100mW), NO-OUTDOOR,DFS >>>> >>>> country AN: DFS-ETSI >>>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) >>>> -- >>>> 2.34.1 >>>>
diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt index fdc2c13..0708039 100644 --- a/db.txt +++ b/db.txt @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ country AL: DFS-ETSI country AM: DFS-ETSI (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) - (5170 - 5250 @ 20), (18) - (5250 - 5330 @ 20), (18), DFS + (5150 - 5350 @ 80), (100mW) + (5470 - 5875 @ 80), (100mW), NO-OUTDOOR,DFS country AN: DFS-ETSI (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
Source:https://www.arlis.am/DocumentView.aspx?DocID=181829 Signed-off-by: Kirill Matvienko <me@16depo.xyz> --- db.txt | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)