Message ID | 20230125142056.18356-20-andy.chiu@sifive.com (mailing list archive) |
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State | Superseded |
Delegated to: | Palmer Dabbelt |
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Series | riscv: Add vector ISA support | expand |
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Hey Andy, Thanks for respinning this, I think a lot of people will be happy to see it! On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 02:20:56PM +0000, Andy Chiu wrote: > diff --git a/arch/riscv/Makefile b/arch/riscv/Makefile > index 12d91b0a73d8..67411cdc836f 100644 > --- a/arch/riscv/Makefile > +++ b/arch/riscv/Makefile > @@ -52,6 +52,13 @@ riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV32I) := rv32ima > riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV64I) := rv64ima > riscv-march-$(CONFIG_FPU) := $(riscv-march-y)fd > riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_C) := $(riscv-march-y)c > +riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V) := $(riscv-march-y)v > + > +ifeq ($(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V), y) > +ifeq ($(CONFIG_CC_IS_CLANG), y) > + riscv-march-y += -mno-implicit-float -menable-experimental-extensions > +endif > +endif Uh, so I don't think this was actually tested with (a recent version of) clang: clang-15: error: unknown argument: '-menable-experimental-extensions_zicbom_zihintpause' Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? Palmer, do you remember why that was? I dunno what enable-experimental-extensions is, but I can guess. Do we really want to enable vector for toolchains where the support is considered experimental? I'm not au fait with the details of clang versions nor versions of the Vector spec, so take the following with a bit of a pinch of salt... Since you've allowed this to be built with anything later than clang 13, does that mean that different versions of clang may generate vector code that are not compatible? I'm especially concerned by: https://github.com/riscv/riscv-v-spec/releases/tag/0.9 which appears to be most recently released version of the spec, prior to clang/llvm 13 being released. > diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > index e2b656043abf..f4299ba9a843 100644 > --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig > +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > @@ -416,6 +416,16 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVPBMT > > If you don't know what to do here, say Y. > > +config RISCV_ISA_V > + bool "VECTOR extension support" > + depends on GCC_VERSION >= 120000 || CLANG_VERSION >= 130000 Are these definitely the versions you want to support? What are the earliest (upstream) versions that support the frozen version of the vector spec? Also, please copy what has been done with "TOOLCHAIN_HAS_FOO" for other extensions and check this support with cc-option instead. Similarly, you'll need to gate this support on the linker being capable of accepting vector: /stuff/toolchains/gcc-11/bin/riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: -march=rv64i2p0_m2p0_a2p0_f2p0_d2p0_c2p0_v1p0_zihintpause2p0_zve32f1p0_zve32x1p0_zve64d1p0_zve64f1p0_zve64x1p0_zvl128b1p0_zvl32b1p0_zvl64b1p0: prefixed ISA extension must separate with _ /stuff/toolchains/gcc-11/bin/riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: failed to merge target specific data of file arch/riscv/kernel/vdso/vgettimeofday.o > + default n I forget, but is the reason for this being default n, when the others are default y a conscious choice? I'm a bit of a goldfish sometimes memory wise, and I don't remember if that was an outcome of the previous discussions. If it is intentionally different, that needs to be in the changelog IMO. > + help > + Say N here if you want to disable all vector related procedure > + in the kernel. > + > + If you don't know what to do here, say Y. > + > config TOOLCHAIN_HAS_ZICBOM ^ you can use this one here as an example :) I'll reply here again once the patchwork automation has given the series a once over and see if it comes up with any other build issues. Thanks, Conor.
On 25 Jan 2023, at 21:04, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > > Hey Andy, > > Thanks for respinning this, I think a lot of people will be happy to see > it! > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 02:20:56PM +0000, Andy Chiu wrote: > >> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Makefile b/arch/riscv/Makefile >> index 12d91b0a73d8..67411cdc836f 100644 >> --- a/arch/riscv/Makefile >> +++ b/arch/riscv/Makefile >> @@ -52,6 +52,13 @@ riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV32I) := rv32ima >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV64I) := rv64ima >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_FPU) := $(riscv-march-y)fd >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_C) := $(riscv-march-y)c >> +riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V) := $(riscv-march-y)v >> + >> +ifeq ($(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V), y) >> +ifeq ($(CONFIG_CC_IS_CLANG), y) >> + riscv-march-y += -mno-implicit-float -menable-experimental-extensions >> +endif >> +endif > > Uh, so I don't think this was actually tested with (a recent version of) > clang: > clang-15: error: unknown argument: '-menable-experimental-extensions_zicbom_zihintpause' > > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? > Palmer, do you remember why that was? > > I dunno what enable-experimental-extensions is, but I can guess. Do we > really want to enable vector for toolchains where the support is > considered experimental? I'm not au fait with the details of clang > versions nor versions of the Vector spec, so take the following with a > bit of a pinch of salt... > Since you've allowed this to be built with anything later than clang 13, > does that mean that different versions of clang may generate vector code > that are not compatible? > I'm especially concerned by: > https://github.com/riscv/riscv-v-spec/releases/tag/0.9 > which appears to be most recently released version of the spec, prior to > clang/llvm 13 being released. For implementations of unratified extensions you both have to enable them with -menable-experimental-extensions and have to explicitly specify the version in the -march string specifically so this isn’t a concern. Only once ratified can you use the unversioned extension, which is implicitly the ratified version (ignoring the whole i2p0 vs i2p1 fiasco). But no, you probably don’t want experimental implementations, which can exist when the ratified version is implemented in theory (so there’s no compatibility concern based on ISA changes) but isn’t deemed production-ready (e.g. potential ABI instability in the case of something like V). Jess
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 09:38:00PM +0000, Jessica Clarke wrote: > On 25 Jan 2023, at 21:04, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 02:20:56PM +0000, Andy Chiu wrote: > > > >> diff --git a/arch/riscv/Makefile b/arch/riscv/Makefile > >> index 12d91b0a73d8..67411cdc836f 100644 > >> --- a/arch/riscv/Makefile > >> +++ b/arch/riscv/Makefile > >> @@ -52,6 +52,13 @@ riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV32I) := rv32ima > >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV64I) := rv64ima > >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_FPU) := $(riscv-march-y)fd > >> riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_C) := $(riscv-march-y)c > >> +riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V) := $(riscv-march-y)v > >> + > >> +ifeq ($(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V), y) > >> +ifeq ($(CONFIG_CC_IS_CLANG), y) > >> + riscv-march-y += -mno-implicit-float -menable-experimental-extensions > >> +endif > >> +endif > > > > Uh, so I don't think this was actually tested with (a recent version of) > > clang: > > clang-15: error: unknown argument: '-menable-experimental-extensions_zicbom_zihintpause' > > > > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? > > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? > > Palmer, do you remember why that was? > > > > I dunno what enable-experimental-extensions is, but I can guess. Do we > > really want to enable vector for toolchains where the support is > > considered experimental? I'm not au fait with the details of clang > > versions nor versions of the Vector spec, so take the following with a > > bit of a pinch of salt... > > Since you've allowed this to be built with anything later than clang 13, > > does that mean that different versions of clang may generate vector code > > that are not compatible? > > I'm especially concerned by: > > https://github.com/riscv/riscv-v-spec/releases/tag/0.9 > > which appears to be most recently released version of the spec, prior to > > clang/llvm 13 being released. > > For implementations of unratified extensions you both have to enable > them with -menable-experimental-extensions and have to explicitly > specify the version in the -march string specifically so this isn’t a > concern. Only once ratified can you use the unversioned extension, > which is implicitly the ratified version (ignoring the whole i2p0 vs > i2p1 fiasco). Ahh, thanks for the clarification Jess. > But no, you probably don’t want experimental implementations, which can > exist when the ratified version is implemented in theory (so there’s no > compatibility concern based on ISA changes) but isn’t deemed > production-ready (e.g. potential ABI instability in the case of > something like V). And I guess, if you turn it on for one, it's on for all. While the vector extension might be okay in that regard, another extension well not be okay to use the "unversioned" experimental version of. Sounds like removing that option and picking the version of clang that adds the actual implementation is a better approach, at least IMO.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:04 AM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > Uh, so I don't think this was actually tested with (a recent version of) > clang: > clang-15: error: unknown argument: '-menable-experimental-extensions_zicbom_zihintpause' > > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? > Palmer, do you remember why that was? > > I dunno what enable-experimental-extensions is, but I can guess. Do we > really want to enable vector for toolchains where the support is > considered experimental? I'm not au fait with the details of clang > versions nor versions of the Vector spec, so take the following with a > bit of a pinch of salt... > Since you've allowed this to be built with anything later than clang 13, > does that mean that different versions of clang may generate vector code > that are not compatible? Thanks for pointing this out. We found that Vector in clang13 was still an experimental feature. And the first version of clang which lists Vector v1.0 (ratified) as a standard support is clang14. Thus, we will require the minimum clang toolchain version to be 14 in the following revision. > I'm especially concerned by: > https://github.com/riscv/riscv-v-spec/releases/tag/0.9 > which appears to be most recently released version of the spec, prior to > clang/llvm 13 being released. > > > diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > index e2b656043abf..f4299ba9a843 100644 > > --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig > > @@ -416,6 +416,16 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVPBMT > > > > If you don't know what to do here, say Y. > > > > +config RISCV_ISA_V > > + bool "VECTOR extension support" > > + depends on GCC_VERSION >= 120000 || CLANG_VERSION >= 130000 > > Are these definitely the versions you want to support? > What are the earliest (upstream) versions that support the frozen > version of the vector spec? It is 14 for clang and 2.38 for GNU binutils > > Also, please copy what has been done with "TOOLCHAIN_HAS_FOO" for other > extensions and check this support with cc-option instead. Similarly, Yes, updating it. > you'll need to gate this support on the linker being capable of > accepting vector: > /stuff/toolchains/gcc-11/bin/riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: -march=rv64i2p0_m2p0_a2p0_f2p0_d2p0_c2p0_v1p0_zihintpause2p0_zve32f1p0_zve32x1p0_zve64d1p0_zve64f1p0_zve64x1p0_zvl128b1p0_zvl32b1p0_zvl64b1p0: prefixed ISA extension must separate with _ > /stuff/toolchains/gcc-11/bin/riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: failed to merge target specific data of file arch/riscv/kernel/vdso/vgettimeofday.o > > > + default n > > I forget, but is the reason for this being default n, when the others > are default y a conscious choice? Yes, I think it could be y if V is allocated in the first-use trap, as far as I'm concerned. Hey Vineet, do you have any comments about that? > I'm a bit of a goldfish sometimes memory wise, and I don't remember if > that was an outcome of the previous discussions. > If it is intentionally different, that needs to be in the changelog IMO. > > > + help > > + Say N here if you want to disable all vector related procedure > > + in the kernel. > > + > > + If you don't know what to do here, say Y. > > + > > config TOOLCHAIN_HAS_ZICBOM > > ^ you can use this one here as an example :) Ok! Thanks > > I'll reply here again once the patchwork automation has given the series > a once over and see if it comes up with any other build issues. > Thanks, > Conor. > Thanks, Andy
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:04 AM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? I placed it in march because I thought we need the flag in vdso. And, KBUILD_CFLAGS is not enough for vdso. However, I think we don't need this flag in vdso since it is run in user space anyway. > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? The flag is needed for clang builds to prevent auto-vectorization from using V in the kernel code [1]. > Palmer, do you remember why that was? The discussion[2] suggested that we need this flag, IIUC. But somehow the patch did make it into the tree. > [1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAOnJCULtT-y9vo6YhW7bW9XyKRdod-hvFfr02jHVamR_LcsKdA@mail.gmail.com/ [2]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221216185012.2342675-1-abdulras@google.com/
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 03:46:32PM +0800, Andy Chiu wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:04 AM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? > I placed it in march because I thought we need the flag in vdso. And, > KBUILD_CFLAGS is not enough for vdso. However, I think we don't need > this flag in vdso since it is run in user space anyway. > > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? > The flag is needed for clang builds to prevent auto-vectorization from > using V in the kernel code [1]. > > > Palmer, do you remember why that was? > The discussion[2] suggested that we need this flag, IIUC. But somehow > the patch did make it into the tree. I know, in [1] I left an R-b as the patch seemed reasonable to me. Palmer mentioned some reason for not thinking it was actually needed but not on-list, so I was hoping he'd comment! And I suppose, it never got any further attention as it isn't needed by any in-tree code? > [1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAOnJCULtT-y9vo6YhW7bW9XyKRdod-hvFfr02jHVamR_LcsKdA@mail.gmail.com/ > [2]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221216185012.2342675-1-abdulras@google.com/
On 1/29/23 22:38, Andy Chiu wrote: >>> + default n >> I forget, but is the reason for this being default n, when the others >> are default y a conscious choice? > Yes, I think it could be y if V is allocated in the first-use trap, as > far as I'm concerned. Hey Vineet, do you have any comments about that? Yes I think this can be enabled by default now that everything is allocated on demand. FWIW thread_struct would have 5 word overhead due to struct __riscv_v_state but nothing I would worry about too much. -Vineet
Hey Andy, On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 08:13:20AM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 03:46:32PM +0800, Andy Chiu wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:04 AM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote: > > > Firstly, no-implicit-float is a CFLAG, so why add it to march? > > I placed it in march because I thought we need the flag in vdso. And, > > KBUILD_CFLAGS is not enough for vdso. However, I think we don't need > > this flag in vdso since it is run in user space anyway. > > > There is an existing patch on the list for enabling this flag, but I > > > recall Palmer saying that it was not actually needed? > > The flag is needed for clang builds to prevent auto-vectorization from > > using V in the kernel code [1]. > > > > > Palmer, do you remember why that was? > > The discussion[2] suggested that we need this flag, IIUC. But somehow > > the patch did make it into the tree. > > I know, in [1] I left an R-b as the patch seemed reasonable to me. > Palmer mentioned some reason for not thinking it was actually needed but > not on-list, so I was hoping he'd comment! Palmer replied there today with his rationale & an expectation that we do the same thing for vector as we did for float: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/mhng-4c71ada6-003c-414f-9a74-efa3ccd2856b@palmer-ri-x1c9/T/#m366779709bbcf7672b5277b3bb27a7d6ce6c6115 > > And I suppose, it never got any further attention as it isn't needed by > any in-tree code? > > > [1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAOnJCULtT-y9vo6YhW7bW9XyKRdod-hvFfr02jHVamR_LcsKdA@mail.gmail.com/ > > [2]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221216185012.2342675-1-abdulras@google.com/ Cheers, Conor.
diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig index e2b656043abf..f4299ba9a843 100644 --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig @@ -416,6 +416,16 @@ config RISCV_ISA_SVPBMT If you don't know what to do here, say Y. +config RISCV_ISA_V + bool "VECTOR extension support" + depends on GCC_VERSION >= 120000 || CLANG_VERSION >= 130000 + default n + help + Say N here if you want to disable all vector related procedure + in the kernel. + + If you don't know what to do here, say Y. + config TOOLCHAIN_HAS_ZICBOM bool default y diff --git a/arch/riscv/Makefile b/arch/riscv/Makefile index 12d91b0a73d8..67411cdc836f 100644 --- a/arch/riscv/Makefile +++ b/arch/riscv/Makefile @@ -52,6 +52,13 @@ riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV32I) := rv32ima riscv-march-$(CONFIG_ARCH_RV64I) := rv64ima riscv-march-$(CONFIG_FPU) := $(riscv-march-y)fd riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_C) := $(riscv-march-y)c +riscv-march-$(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V) := $(riscv-march-y)v + +ifeq ($(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_V), y) +ifeq ($(CONFIG_CC_IS_CLANG), y) + riscv-march-y += -mno-implicit-float -menable-experimental-extensions +endif +endif # Newer binutils versions default to ISA spec version 20191213 which moves some # instructions from the I extension to the Zicsr and Zifencei extensions.